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Good to start hearing from you again Cinda. Hope all is well. I think that getting plans for a fall jamboree is here. I sorta of spearheaded the first one so I'll stay out of the next one. But, I do look forward to going, I have no problem with driving a ways. However, if it's in Arizona or California, I'll have to drop one trailer at the boarder, pull the other one in and then backtrack to get the left behind trailer. This is OK so long as it's not 300 miles inside the boarder. Double trailers are OK for me in Nevada and Utah. Anyway someone needs to take charge and make it happen by consolidating everyones input and zeroing in on a place and time. I willing to go pretty much anywhere and at most any time. I only have a few important things comming up that only take one day and would take priority. Looking forward to seeing everyone again and hopefully we'[l see some new faces.
Lenny
June 11-14, 2010 -- 2nd Annual Trooper Jamboree
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 04:30 PM
Just got back from Lake Havasu, AZ. Bad News if your pulling a bumper pull trailer and your trooper on a trailer behind it you will get a ticket, I found out the hard way. But if you are pulling a fifth wheel you can tow behind it. go figure. After an extra tank of fuel and an extra trip back to Havasu to vegas then to st george and my 175.00 dollar ticket I think I'm going to look into a toy hauler. Just thought I'd let you all know what AZ doubles rule is.
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 04:37 PM
Hammerdn, on Sep 5 2009, 05:30 PM, said:
Just got back from Lake Havasu, AZ. Bad News if your pulling a bumper pull trailer and your trooper on a trailer behind it you will get a ticket, I found out the hard way. But if you are pulling a fifth wheel you can tow behind it. go figure. After an extra tank of fuel and an extra trip back to Havasu to vegas then to st george and my 175.00 dollar ticket I think I'm going to look into a toy hauler. Just thought I'd let you all know what AZ doubles rule is.
Hammerdn, where are you from.
Lenny
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 04:51 PM
Sorry you got bit by the law but I believe that is the only way I have heard you can double pull in the Southwest. Trailer has to be a fifth wheel. TT pulls are just not stable enough. Oh well you will enjoy the Toyhauler. I have a Raptor 3612DS and the Trooper fits fine. I do only pull it 60 mph as in total it is a huge load.
WELCOME!
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WELCOME!
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 04:55 PM
rocmoc, on Sep 5 2009, 03:51 PM, said:
Sorry you got bit by the law but I believe that is the only way I have heard you can double pull in the Southwest. Trailer has to be a fifth wheel. TT pulls are just not stable enough. Oh well you will enjoy the Toyhauler. I have a Raptor 3612DS and the Trooper fits fine. I do only pull it 60 mph as in total it is a huge load.
WELCOME!
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
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I just don't get it, that was my fourth trip down and back and never had been stopped before.
Thanks for the welcome
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 05:55 PM
In the last week or little more, there has been more law on the highways than I have ever seen before. AZ is in a money crunch (second behind CA in $/resident) and it maybe one way they are trying to add revenue. Also you are suppose to have an off-road sticker or you can be fined. If you have one from another state that has a joint agreement like Utah, their sticker is accepted. This is required even if you are licensed for the street, $20 or 25. I have street plates plus the sticker on my Trooper. This is knew 2009 & they are enforcing. Also there is a State Trust Lands Permit you are required to have if you play on State Trust Lands which are usually next to State & National Forest. If you stay on the road just to cross State Trust Lands into the Forest, the permit is not required if you have the Off-Road Sticker. A bunch of c**p has gone down in the last couple of years in the management of the Off-Road world. Maybe you have just been lucky the other times on the blacktop & off-road!
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 10:16 PM
Hammerdn, on Sep 5 2009, 05:39 PM, said:
Little town called Kemmerer WY
I wondered, you said something about St George after Las Vegas. I live about 15 miles from St George in a little town called Hurricane, UT.
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 11:27 PM
Lenny, on Sep 5 2009, 09:16 PM, said:
I wondered, you said something about St George after Las Vegas. I live about 15 miles from St George in a little town called Hurricane, UT.
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Yeah I had seen that before been thru there to many times to keep track of. In fact I had thought about looking you up when I came back thru, but things kind of changed I wasn't in a good frame of mind.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:40 PM
I was asked if I would come to the mountains mid-state of Utah for the next Jamboree. To share with everyone, I said we would probably pass as I didn't want to pull that far again up 15. I did suggest I would come to the area East of Kinarf & Lenny /West of Page as I could pull thu the center of AZ & thu Page. A lot easier for me. Wanted to share so everyone was on the same footing with the info I am putting out. Timing is going to be the tough nut to crack!
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 05:48 PM
OK this is an aggressive push! I would like to see the 2nd Joyner Rally held in Farmington, NM. Daven at Farr Offroad, http://www.teamjoyne...m/state_nm.html , has agreed and wants the Rally. He will lead us on the local trails and would even lead us on a secondary run of trails in Colorado in the Rockies 30 minutes of trailing to the North. He said he would put the Rally on his website and we should be able to pull more people from East of the crowd we had last time. Spring or Fall would work well per Daven. There is a location for dry camping or campgrounds with hookups. I would differently commit if this as the chosen location. I will say with due respect, I am not traveling to Utah. I have seen rock climbing and ATV trails on the Outdoor Channel and the area looks GREAT! Plus you are not that far from Taos, 4 Corners or Canyon de Chelly.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 11:14 PM
I will say with due respect, I am not traveling to Utah. 
I feel sorry for you, you just don't know what you're missing
I don't get much done any more,
But I make up for it by not getting it done very quickly!
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Really, It just doesn't matter.
2008 Trooper T2
But I make up for it by not getting it done very quickly!
-And-
Really, It just doesn't matter.
2008 Trooper T2
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:04 PM
Kinarfi, on Oct 5 2009, 09:14 PM, said:
I will say with due respect, I am not traveling to Utah. I feel sorry for you, you just don't know what you're missing I would like to go somewhere new. I have been to Utah and while it maybe cool in the mountains, we have to travel thu many miles/over a day of nearly 100+ degrees before we get to cool weather. Going to Farmington, besides being a new area, would mean only about 3 hours of hot weather and only one or no large cities to drive thu depending on the route. LV is h*ll to pull thu going to Utah.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:04 PM
I'm just trying to torment you in fun, I totally understand your feelings and hope you forgive me, as I remember, you do have quite a rig to drag around, nice rig though. I imagine Farmington has some good places too, and like you said, go north and you get into the Durango and the likes, Been there once, but was visiting family and not exploring. If there is local support and leadership in Farmington, it may be a very good place.
Not pushing Utah but, as far as I know, you only got to see the red rock beauty of Utah, and not all of it at that, there is lots more and of course forest area is forest area and it's all beautiful, which ever state has it. If Joyner gets more popular, there may have to be more than one Jamboree, say a North and a South and an East and a West, that would be fun for us retired folk.
Found Daven's site, http://www.farroffroad.com,
Thanks.
kinarfi
Not pushing Utah but, as far as I know, you only got to see the red rock beauty of Utah, and not all of it at that, there is lots more and of course forest area is forest area and it's all beautiful, which ever state has it. If Joyner gets more popular, there may have to be more than one Jamboree, say a North and a South and an East and a West, that would be fun for us retired folk.
Found Daven's site, http://www.farroffroad.com,
Thanks.
kinarfi
I don't get much done any more,
But I make up for it by not getting it done very quickly!
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Really, It just doesn't matter.
2008 Trooper T2
But I make up for it by not getting it done very quickly!
-And-
Really, It just doesn't matter.
2008 Trooper T2
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 06:11 PM
Kinarfi, I was worried that I had upset you! I'm fine.
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edit ---- no not me, we're here to have fun, maybe do a little teasing --- kinarfi
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
edit ---- no not me, we're here to have fun, maybe do a little teasing --- kinarfi
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