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This is for all of you Joyner Trooper, Commando, and Renegade UTV owners. Joyner UTV specific topics.


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    • Yes, and that was my confusion. The manual, from what I've seen, only states JASO-MA, but doesn't mention whether the oil should be synthetic or not. I contacted a few guys who made videos on the Coleman UT400 and one stated he uses "regular motorcycle oil". Another just said he uses only "regular oil" because he also heard synthetic can cause slippage, but didn't mention if that regular oil he uses was JASO-MA or not. The third guy I spoke to, who owns a repair shop stated the following: "As far as clutch slippage , you don't have to worry about that from the oil, being that these units come with CVT, no oil ever touches the clutch. And I don't see any reason full synthetic would harm this engine in any way. However that being said I do know that full synthetic oil in older Harley Davidsons have caused cams to spin inside the bearings creating a flat spot in the bearing. I do not see that happening to these units." So with that said, I'm guessing that as long as it is a JASO-MA rated oil, it doesn't matter?
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    • Synthetic vs conventional has nothing to do with clutch slippage. The clutch slip is caused by viscosity modifiers used in "Energy Conserving" oils (you'll see that with the API Starburst ratings). JASO MA rated oils are designed to work properly with wet clutches used in Japanese bikes, as well as ATV/UTVs etc that use wet clutches. Do not use a non JASO-MA rated oil unless you can confirm it is wet clutch safe, and afaik the only common non MA rated oil that is ok is Rotella.
    • They both need to be fully off their respective cam lobes. You can either look at the cam or pull the spark plug and look through the hole with a flashlight. It's much easier to spin the engine over by hand with the plug pulled since you're not fighting the compression.
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