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Hi,

I'm in the market for a hunting/ ice fishing utv. I've been looking at the normal group (Ranger, pioneer, defender, general, wolverine, etc.) of used units and came across a 2014 Joyner R2. It's got a full cab, heater and a winch.  Supposedly no mechanical issues. They're asking $7K. I've never heard of the brand and have been doing some internet research. It sounds like the older units had issues but the newer units since 2014 are better. The utv is exactly what I'd like to have but I'm just looking for advice from folks who know more about these units. Thanks for the help.

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I've said this on other posts.  You'll find die-hard fans for any brand of UTV/SxS.  There is no perfect UTV.  Even brand name UTVs have issues with broken/overheated/burnedf belts, drive shafts, CV joints, engines, etc. especially when driven beyond their capability.  I bought a used Joyner (paid $7k 3 years ago) because 1) I pave my own roads, 2) I can't see spending $20k-$30k+ for a "pretty" UTV that I might ride a few times a year.  It's just not in my budget.  The early Joyners had quality control issues, but they've seem to have improved.  In other posts, the differenials seem to be a weak point.  But I believe that the failures might be related to driving them beyond their limitations.  I'll admit that UTVs with CVTs are easier to drive.  The Joyners with the clutch and 5-speed transmissions require you to take an active role in managing power to the drive axles.  The John Deere 825i uses the same Chery engine (800cc) as the early Renegades.  One model of the Kawasaki also uses a Chery engine.  If the UTV has a gasoline engine (3-cyl 800cc or 4-cyl 1100cc), it just might be a Chery engine.  Those owners probably don't know that they are driving Chinese "junk".  The larger displacement Chery engines are relatively common in cars sold in Asia, Africa and South America.  In 2014, the Renegade has the 1100cc engine - same as their Trooper.  The Joyner and Troopers are wide machines (60in); you may be limited to where you can ride on narrow trails.  I did a search for UTV recalls.  Most brand name UTVs & ATVs have had recalls.  I couldn't find any recalls for Joyner Troopers or Renegades.  Maybe they just don't issue recalls whether needed or not.  Support for these UTVs however, may be difficult to find.  Dealerships aren't as wide spread as name brand UTVs.  I haven't experienced any issues with my UTV - yet.  I use mine as a means of transportation in the backwoods, not as a race car to jump over cliffs. Personally, I like my Renegade.

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