Darryl223

What kinds of jacks are guys running on their troopers?   I see guys using scissor jacks on other SxS’s but I don’t see that working here.(I could be wrong)   Does anyone use a hi lift?  What pick points do you use?    Was thinking I could hook in to the bar next to the seat and pick the whole side if need be.

       I got it on amazon, it’s made by empi.  They have several configurations.  They’re made for Volkswagens of higher displacement so I figured this would get me the flow I need, I run 24 discs with a turbo.

          That being said my exhaust came modified because I bought my unit with the unleashed motorsports turbo kit installed. I had to cut the elbow off the cat and weld on a 2” straight section to mount this to, then I made a bracket to support it.  What they gave me was no muffler and an elbow pointing right at the tire, no way to mount a spark arrest  which meant I basically couldn’t take it any where legally.  One of several reasons I wasn’t impressed with their turbo install, but they said I’d void the warranty on the trooper if I installed it myself so I had no choice.

What’s the offset on those wheels?

On 8/17/2017 at 8:42 AM, Kinarfi said:

when you try to start, is the engine turn over and it won't light off or is it not engaging the starter? If not engaging starter, tap on the fuse box and see if that gets you going, I had to put some foam tape I had on the top of the bottom left relay to solve my problem, that is the relay the comes in when you step on the brake which is interlocked with the start ket.

Jeff

It always fires but then dies right away, really seems fuel related.  Starting to think it could be related to the dual fuel pump set up for the turbo.  Haven't had much time to mess with it lately.  Have an appointment to have a warranty repair done.

I've tried a lot of different things, checked everything again and again.(voltages, fuel pressure, resistance of sensors etc.). They're sending me a throttle body since it's still under warranty after that I'm taking it to a shop and they're paying to have it fixed.  It's brand new, I shouldn't have to bury all these hours into it already.

I tried adding grounds, all factory stuff was tight and clean.  Always fires, just dies immediately.  Crack the throttle and it runs fine, hold it for 10-30 seconds and it will idle.  Then sometimes it's totally fine.  

Looks like throttle position sensor is way out of range.  5.6k ohms vs the 1.8-2.4 reference range.  They're sending one out on warranty.

Email sent, I will check it I have all the tools here.  I actually had planned to anyway as the fuel pressure had been set way too high(80 psi at idle)  by the turbo installer.  I was concerned the cylinders may have been washed down.  Anyway thanks for the help.

12 minutes ago, silverbullet said:

Silverbullet

Sinces it is turbocharged it is hard to tell.I always tell every body to go back to basics.1) compression test this is the most important check.One you do that than its time to test the fuel injection.Changing parts is not the way to fix this you need to test the sensors.Send email to me and i will send a shop manual to [email protected] its intermittent it could be a vacuum leak.But you can check each sensor and map sensor or crank sensor.But do compression and i will send shop manual.Its not hard to check all sensors with a volt meter an then you can be sure you can find out the proublum.

Thanks

I definitely don't want to just be changing parts but I don't  have the specs for anything so that's been their way of handling it since it's still under warranty.  It doesn't even have 100 miles on it.  I'll email you thanks.

       I've had a 2016 trooper for a few months, it's never worked properly.  I'm about ready to take it to a dealer for warranty work but it's a little far so I'm trying to avoid it.  It on occasion will not start. It took a while to figure out that if I open the throttle just a little bit it will fire, I then have to hold it open for anywhere from five to thirty seconds for it to idle on it's own.  Other times it fires right off no problem.  

        It's turbocharged, and has two pumps.  I've verified that the fuel pressure is correct.  Joyner has had me swap a bunch of parts to eliminate them.  I suggested it seems that possibly the IAC is malfunctioning or that it's getting incorrect inputs from the tps but they disagreed.  I've read that people have had similar issues stemming from the IAC but until I get a replacement from them I can't verify.  I tried setting base idle a little higher with the set screw but the idle just gets erratic and won't idle down once I've given it some throttle.  

       I'm going to call them again tomorrow and have them send a new throttle body to try, and I also have a scanner for European cars coming that is supposed to read chery automotive ecu's; after that it may be time to haul it in.  Anyone else had a similar issue?

Got my spark arrestor installed, the way they did the exhaust for the turn I couldn't make one fit before.  Only had .045 dual shield on hand but I made it work.  Didn't get enough discs so I didn't put the cap on yet.  Turned out pretty good though.  One photo shows how it was, elbow too short to mount anything to.  Also would've put on top of the tire.

Not sure if the bolt patterns are the same between the 800 and the 1100, but the 800 chery motor is used by both Kawasaki and John Deere in cvt side by sides.  

Not certain of the manufacturer but our 2016 came with a remote reservoir shock(has a Joyner sticker on it).  Wasn't aware they came with these

Probably be a week or two before I really get it out.  I'm in central Washington, up in the mountains.  Im only a five minute drive from many miles of forest service roads.  I've got sand dunes about an hour drive from here as well, this thing is going to see a lot of use.

I'm out of town for work, but my wife sent me these photos.  Our unit finally showed up, 2016 with a turbo and intercooler(you can see it behind the seat).  Spare tire coming in separate shipment.

Hoping to hear from Joyner on this one

I was told you guys have upgraded your current differentials.  What specifically are you doing differently from the old ones?

1 hour ago, lowgear said:

Like 2scoops and kinarfi said the issues with past models has been addressed. If your use it for farm use and climbing around your farm you can't go wrong with a trooper or any other model of joyner. You need the manual trans not the CVT it will most certainly fail if you start to pull a trailer or anything else. I have a 2008 T2, I don't own a car or truck. I use mine for everything from the street to any off road condition and have pilled up 50,000+ miles on mine. The only thing I ever broke  that was a problem with the t2 from factory was the front diff. the rear I updated when I bought it because I knew about it before hand. Parts has never been a problem before, you can get them from the joyner outlets around the country or at your local auto parts store. The other makers make great buggies for going fast but not for work. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents worth have fun with whatever you decide on. Oh! one more thing I have 2 T2's the other has a turbo and I myself am disappointed with how it runs it takes to long for the power to come in. Yeh I know you can make other additions to it to make it better but I will go with a blower (super charger) next time. The power is always there from idle, all the way up.

I put in an order for a 2016, still mulling over whether to get the factory turbo.  Advantage being it doesn't void the warranty, and it's a good value considering they install it.  The super charger would be better in some instances, but it seems it's been in development for a long time, no release date and no potential cost.  I'd also be waiting until my warranty ended to do it. I'm probably going to get it since I'm so close to sand dunes, maybe in the future switch if I don't like it.  Nice to hear you have an 08 with that much use on it, I am a mechanic but I still do appreciate reliability. 

2016 model ordered today, 2000$ factory rebate.  They offer to install a turbo kit that won't void the warranty, waiting to hear back on what their kit consists of before I decide on that.  He said differentials have stronger bolts now, ball joints are American made etc.  Six weeks out, can't wait

On 1/31/2017 at 4:20 PM, 2scoops said:

It all depends on your price point. I have had great luck with my 2008 trooper.  It has never left me stranded. Newer models aresupposed to be more reliable. The biggest drawback is you can't just go drop it off at the dealer for repairs. You need to be handy and do the upkeep and maintenance. Parts are avaliable,  but quality can be an issue.  I usually try to upgrade parts such as tierods, cv boots, air filter, etc when possible.  That way you can often just go to a local automotive parts store to get what you need.  I can afford a higher end machine,  but the trooper does everything I need it to so it's hard to justify. Plus, I trust it more for reliability than my wifes wildcat.  But that it because I upgraded critical areas which needed to be addressed on older models. 

So some of these issues have been resolved on newer units?

I can afford the can am, I like the steel body and manual transmission of the Joyner.  It's a pretty cool concept.  Seems like I'm always drawn to the oddball stuff.  Thanks for the quick feedback.  Oh and I'm a diesel mechanic and millwright, repairing things is all I do.

I don't have a utv yet, and I'm just looking for info at the moment.  I've been looking at can am commanders, but I've also just recently discovered the Joyner renegade and I really like the design.  I'm looking for something to use on our farm, just light stuff.  Also to go up in the hills here (mountains of central Washington). My concern with the Joyner is reliability and parts availability.  What are your guys recent experiences?  Do the newest machines have improved quality over the earlier models?  Is parts availability still an issue for you?  Are your machines leaving you stranded?  I don't want to put my wife on something that's going to break down all the time.