Quantcast
Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

I just bought a 2005 ranger 500 that has been sitting at my friends for a year. I replaced the battery, checked the fluids, drained the gas and refilled it, removed the old gas from the lines and fuel pump.
It would not start, it would crank but not fire. I removed the air filter and sprayed starter fluid in it. It ran for about 10 seconds and died. It would not run on fuel.
I removed the carb and got a rebuild kit. It was green and gummy inside.
I also bought another cheap amazon carb just incase.
I went back, put the carb on and it started and ran for about 30 seconds. It then looked like the fuel pump had stopped working and it cut out.
I could not get it to restart.
I disconnected the pump and tried to get the pump to run directly from a gas can onto the ground. It would vibrate and make the usual noises but no fuel output.
I put another fuel pump on it and it would still not run.
I blew into the fuel line from the pump to the carb and i was blocked. (I figured the float was up and the needle had closed off the fuel.)
I took the carb off and it was full of fuel.
I put the amazon carb on and tried, fuel drained from the bottom of the carb (I know, what did I expect).
I have a couple of questions.
1. Is there a sensor that restricts the fuel, (I'm wondering if the original pump was good, now I know the bowl was full).
2. Why will this now not run when it was running good for 30 seconds, it sounded great.

advice is appreciated, I'm kind of stuck now, the bike is 30 miles from me so its a nightmare traveling back and forth with tools. I wanted to get it back to my place but the brakes are also seized.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Good write-up — you already did a lot of the right things. A 2005 Polaris Ranger 500 is pretty simple fuel-wise, so the good news is there aren’t many mysterious sensors that “shut fuel off”. This problem is almost always mechanical: fuel delivery, vacuum, carb, or spark.

Let’s answer your two questions directly, then I’ll give you a short attack plan.


1) Is there a sensor that restricts fuel flow?

No.
On a 2005 Ranger 500:

There is no electronic fuel control, no ECU, and no sensor that shuts fuel off.

Fuel flow is controlled by only:

• Fuel pump (vacuum-operated)
• Fuel lines
Carb float & needle
• Tank venting
• Petcock / fuel valve (if equipped)

If the float bowl was full, the pump was doing its job. The engine dies because fuel is not getting from the bowl into the engine through the jets, not because something "turned the fuel off."


2) Why won’t it run now when it ran for 30 seconds?

This is classic carb-clog behavior.

It ran on:

• Cleaner fluid
• Fuel already in the bowl
• Whatever fuel partially flowed before debris moved

Then it died because:

Most likely causes (ranked in probability):

A) Pilot jet or main jet is plugged (MOST COMMON)

When varnish breaks loose, it moves downstream and immediately blocks tiny jet openings.

Symptoms:
• Runs briefly then dies
• Won’t restart
• Bowl has fuel but engine acts starved
• Starter fluid allows momentary run

Fix:
Pull carb again and:

• Remove pilot jet
• Remove main jet
• Remove emulsion tube
• Spray carb cleaner through everything
• Blow with compressed air (not optional)
• Pass thin wire through jets if needed


B) Tank vent is clogged → vacuum in tank

If the tank cannot breathe, fuel flow stops after a short run.

Test:
Remove gas cap and try to start it.
If it runs, vent is plugged.


C) Vacuum line leaking to fuel pump

If the vacuum line is cracked, loose, or plugged, the fuel pump will stop after initial fuel.

Test:
Pull vacuum line off pump and crank engine.
You should feel strong pulsing suction.

No vacuum = hose issue or intake leak.


D) Amazon carb quality issue

Low-price carbs often have:

• Wrong float height
• Faulty needle
• Leaky bowl
• Wrong jet size
• Improper gaskets

Fuel leaking out the bottom = float/needle defective.

Use the OEM carb you rebuilt after cleaning it again.


E) Spark failure after warm-up

Much less common, but possible with an aging ignition coil or stator.

Test:
Pull spark plug and check immediately after it dies.
Spark should be bright blue.


A very likely scenario in your case:

It ran well → debris moved → jet plugged → bowl stayed full → engine starved → now dead.


What I recommend you do next (simple order):

Step 1:

Remove gas cap and try to start it (rule out tank vent)


Step 2:

Pull your ORIGINAL carb back off and:

• Remove pilot + main jets
• Spray + air blast them thoroughly
• Make sure spray shoots cleanly out of idle port
• Reassemble


Step 3:

Check vacuum line to fuel pump:
Crank with line removed → must feel suction.


Step 4:

Ignore the Amazon carb for now.
Use your rebuilt OEM carb only.


Step 5:

Verify spark after it dies.


I

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Similar Topics

    • By Skeeter22
      I going from a Yama Rhino and bought a 2026 Ranger 1000XP. I was riding and lost all steering. The steering wheel just spins freely. I have one other video of this happing but has anyone else experienced this.
    • By Sammy
      Runs fine just putting around the yard. Get it out on the road and about a half miles it runs out of gas. Let it idle for a few minutes and it will run for another half mile and do it again. Replaced both fuel pumps and filter. Does anyone know if I can get rid of the factory fuel pump?
    • By AlphaSerenity
      Hello,
      Before I invest $10k+ into a brand new UTV for the farm, I want to get my feet wet with a fixer upper and learn the mechanical side of things. I acquired a 2022 Hisun Axis 500 (Lowes-specific model) from an auction for $500. It has only 200 hours and 120 miles on the engine. It looks like the previous owner used it for ranch work and didn't drive it on trails, deep water/mud, or anything too crazy.
      While it runs and moves, it has some problems. It struggles to accelerate up any incline in high and low range and sometimes stalls when I let off of the throttle or change gears. When I apply throttle in neutral, it sounds like it is struggling for fuel/air and pops. When I decelerate, there is a grinding sound coming from the clutch, which I've read to be related to the one way bearing and is semi-common. The last thing I've observed is sometimes the speedometer display sometimes will show a much higher value for a few seconds after barely touching the throttle. Based on the documentation, if a problem is detected from the sensors, the instrument panel display should have an error code rendered on the screen in place of the time, but this isn't happening. Here is a video showing some of these issues (engine is exposed with console removed):
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFAkO5TaGps
       
      Here is another video of the clutches in action:
       
      I've done some research, but information on this specific unit and sister units is limited. There does seem to be transmission and clutch issues reported. I still need to check into the head gaskets. I don't have the equipment to test compression right now, but I do plan on ordering what is needed soon. I do have an order in place for some cables to read the diagnostics from the computer. There is a shop two hours away from me that works on Hisun products, but I am hoping the problem can be identified and is something within my ability to handle. Below is what I've already investigated.  I am leaning towards the primary clutch needing replacement right now.
      After getting it home and unloaded, I did the following maintenance/checks to it prior to operating it further:
      Changed the engine/clutch oil (and filter) and gear oils using manufacture recommended viscosity Changed the air filter and checked for cracks in the air intake flow. Verified good suction. Cleaned the throttle body Changed the spark plug and verified the gap was within spec (0.6-0.7mm) Changed the coil and coil wire Changed the fuel lines, fuel injector, and verified the fuel pump was outputting the correct initial prime pressure for ignition and continuous pressure after ignition. Also completely emptied the fuel tank and made sure octane 91+ fuel is being used per manufacturer specs. Ran seafoam through system too. Cleaned the spark arrester and verified no cracks or gaps in the exhaust flow Changed out the O2 sensor Checked all wired connections to ensure they were secured and no breaks were visible Checked the belt for tightness and for any signs of wear and tear Verified 4WD and the differential lock function as expected - still hesitates and struggles uphill Verified the fan gears in the shifter are not corroded and working as expected ECU was reset after replacing sensors and fuel-related parts  
       
      Thanks!
    • By didgeridoo
      Hello, All!  I've decided to replace the traction batteries in my 2018 Sector E1 with a 48V Lithium set. They may be expensive, but I figure the Discovery Dry Cell are, too. I am not looking for the max driving range, as I have never received near the brochured range to begin with, but a good mix of charge/ get work done/ charge is what I am expecting.
      I have settled on the 48V EAGL kit from bigbattery dot com. Each battery pack provides 30Ah. The kit ships with a charger, as well. The packs would be physically connected in parallel (using a busbar) to one another, maintaining the 48V voltage, but together would be able to provide the amp draw the buggy pulls when going up hill or towing a rake (rated 320 max continuous Amps). This is in comparison to the serial connection the eight 6V lead batteries. Each of the EAGL batteries looks to have its own BMS; am I correct in thinking I will have to use their included charger rather than (simply) changing the onboard charger to lithium mode? The chemistry of the pack is LiFe PO4, for what it's worth.  I haven't torn anything apart yet (to diagram), so  I am not sure how the dash will interpret the AMP draw, but the kit I am looking at includes a dash mounted charge indicator.
      If anyone has completed a similar conversion, do you have any tips? Specifically, how did you remove the original batteries, and how did you secure the new ones? I am guessing that almost any change from the stock batteries would involve at least some modifications. Any tips would be appreciated, especially things I may have failed to consider. Thanks!
    • By Silent3923
      Been waiting over a month and a half for a transmission from bobcat,  they claim the polaris transmission is different.   Can anyone verify that???
×
×
  • Create New...