Mopartist

Mines like brand new after 3 years...... 239.4 miles. OMG!

Wow; you gotta lot of time and effort into your Trooper. Thanks for the pics!

I spent too much time on dino's. I have to face it; I can't draw them. I tried at least 5 different ones. They all look like they're chewing on gummy bears; and their heads too big for the roll cage. Sorry

Ok; so I dunno much about silk screening and T-shirt prints; but if this will work; you can use it if you want. (I learned some new tricks in photoshop, and wanted to try them out.)

Ya know; it's funny you said that Lenny. I was thinking for some reason that we were all so old that we revert back to age 6. Why the heck am I doing kiddy cartoons? I dunno; but I'll revamp and start over. Wierd; my hot rod artwork never appealed to little kids.

Awwww....Ya don't like "Deeno" ? I could do Barney and Baby Bop maybe! (My daughters favorite from 20 years ago) Naw; just kiddin; I could do something more original. I dunno if it would be as cute as Deeno though.

Maybe we can get Mopartist to do the artwork, him being an animation artist. I'd rather not have a pocket.

Lenny

Hello Kinarfi

I was messin around with Photoshop and thought I'd give the design for the Jamboree a shot. I didn't do the lettering yet because i wasn't sure what you guys wanted. If this will work; let me know; I can set the lettering display, or make changes if you want. I did the color in light blue so that it didn't favor any particular Trooper. Yellow is kinda hard on T-shirt design as the inks don't cover very well.

-Ken

Click on it for larger view

Let's have some comments, I think Mopartist has done a good job, I like the idea of not favoring any one particular Trooper, even if it's not yellow , may want to modify the Dinos a little bit away from Flintstones, just a comment. from kinarfi who hyjact this reply so it stay under Mopartist's post.

Yes

Lenny

Whoops ; I was trying to catch ya before you answered. I found out it was a plastic cover painted to look like the powder coated metal.

I would not leave the computer plugged in and preferrably remove it from the vehicle. I damaged one when I welded without disconnecting it however I was using Heli-arc in DC which initiates its spark with a high frequency spark to jump the gap. High frenquicy can easily kill a computer. Years ago, I developed some machinery that used a high frequency generator to cure glue in laminates. This machine was computer controlled and we had a fit at first with the high frequency getting into everything and blowing stuff. High frequency current runs on the surface of conductors and can jump around. It gets into everything and shows up as a spike in voltage. We ended up putting probably a hundred or so capacitors in the circuit to catch the spikes which solved the problem. I now remove my computer before welding even with MIG which doesn't have the HF. Fortunately I had extended insurance and they bought me a new computer.

Lenny

Ehhhh.......so is the computer visable in the pic I posted?

I've welded on my Trooper many times before, but recently I was told I should unplug the circuits in order to keep from damaging the electrical system.

Would this be the place to disconnect on the red switch?

When we travel, more people know us as rocmoc than by our real names. We have showed up at a full campground in Mexico to be turned away until they find out we are rocmoc. This is because for YEARS we have been know on the RV boards as rocmoc. We even respond to rocmoc when talking & visiting with people in person.

SO,

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico with pics in our gallery

I've been meaning to ask you by the way......what is "ROC MOC"? .....and a "Kinarfi" too?

"Mopartist" is derived from me being a "Mopar" or Chrysler enthusiast, and I'm an artist...which makes me a "Mopartist" (I used to do cartoons of classic hot rods for clubs and stuff)

Just refrain from using last names. I took mine off. Hows anyone gonna find out pertinent info ? (Something I didn't think about when i posted) I just wanted to put a name with a face. (I'd never remember handles)

Crap! That is just to far away from Houston!!

1008 miles to be exact. We hopefully are coming from Oregon (about 950 miles) But.......it really depends on the economy. It's a LOOOONG trip! Hope to see you there.

all the views may not even be from members or even people who are going to the jamboree.dont get discouraged im sure there will be some.In all honesty a have to dig for some recent photos of the wife and I. I cant remember the last time we had a photo together except at maybe xmas.Sad.

Not Sad.........Mines 5 years old! I just thought (being 900 miles fron anywhere near there) , it'd be cool to be able to recognize one another. Believe me; I'm not the "extravert" you guys might think; I'm usually the last one in a room to say hello first.

Oh by the way; I also didn't mean it to be "Joyner" owners only; but I can't change the title. My in-laws might come from Henderson NV; and they have a Yamaha. (I'm reasonably sure they won't post pics either.)

So Rocmoc; if you would; could you change the title to "Jamboree Folks" or something like that?

And to think I thought this would be enough "kick in the pants"

Uhhhhh.....I don't want to come off like I feel I need to be attracted to you guys to be a friend! LOL!

Awwww Jeeeez; 17 views and no takers. Do you guys really think you are gonna hide behind rocks out in the desert where nobody can see you? Or are we all gonna have seperate Jamborees? Whatever!

Handle: Mopartist

Names: Ken and Terri

From: Bend, Oregon

08 Trooper 2

With the summer 2011 Jamboree coming up; I thought it might be a good idea to get to know one another a little better, So how about some pics of ourselves and include name and message board handles. It'd be nice to show up at the Jamboree and kinda have an idea of who's who; don't ya think? Ill be glad to start this one off

I like the location south of Hanksville. It's easy to get to; looks like alot of area to camp; and from what I could tell from Google Earth; closing up tight and angling the view shows many canyons, water crossings. and 4x4 climbing areas. It seems like it would be pretty secluded too, so we wouldn't have much competition for camp spots like we would in Moab. I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that we can attend. It's all up to the economy.

Heres some that I made out of flare material I got from JC Whitney. It was cheap; looks decent, and is rugged.

http://www.klung-motor.com/vehicle-one.asp?smallclass=KLUNG 1100-2C 4x4 CVT NEW BUGGY&bigclass=Vehicle

scroll down to this model:: 1100-2C 4x4 CVT NEW BUGGY&bigclass=Vehicle

Wow; that long travel suspension is sweet. I wonder how compatable it might be with the Joyner T version? I'm diggin the rims too.

Well, I just finished my front suspension (lowered front diff & shock hoops) and finally got around to messin' with the rear. I was able to bolt in my 8.5 inch Fox coilover to the factory mounts without lowering the diff. However, the right swing arm did contact the CV shaft. So, I grinded of about 1/8" of material from the swing arm where it was contacting I aint' scerd. So, if that is acceptable for you, then there is your answer for the rear. Or, I could have moved the lower shock mount back a little and wouldn't have had to grind anything--whatever you find easiest. I will eventually be lowering my diff, but it won't be till' after Moab. Also, I gained about an inch and a half of travel with the new shocks. The bolt holes in the shock are 1/2" so I drilled out the T2 shock mounts to 5/8" and used 1/2 X 5/8 X 1 spacers (Lowes hardware dept). Then I cut them in half and ground them down until I foung the fit I liked. If anyone out there makes a shock with an extended length of 22"-23", no more than 23", then they should bolt in with only having to figure out how to bolt them up (depending on the bolt they accept).

Thanks 2 scoops. How bout some pics for inspiration?

I'm working on the Trophy Truck ride and am getting real close. I think I have the rear nailed and have just a bit of work to do on the front yet but it is getting real close. Getting the front right could change the rear a bit. I'm currently running 200# x 10" over 200# x 16" springs on the front with standard coil; over 2x10 fox shocks. Modifications are required but I do have an actual 14.5" of travel. The rear has 325# x 10" over 450# x 14" also on 2x10 fox shocks. Rear modifications also required but here too I have a full 14.5" of travel. I am not running longer axels and swing arms/a-arms so no increase in width from extra travel. I run limit straps and bump stops both front and rear. I'm running 15" wheels and 31x10.5 tires. I have about 12 sets of extra springs around from testing and have revalved many times. Each spring change generally requires a valve change. Through all of this I have developed as pretty good feel of just what change does what. I will be posting a complete suspension workup of everything I did including modifications made. I will be posting exacting locations of all shock mount points so my setup could be copied. It won't be long now, besides I need to start selling the extra springs to get my money back out of them. If you were to do your own modifications, my setup can be done for about $1500 including reseviore shocks and springs. I'll put mine up against any done with King shocks without hesitation. I'm not saying that I'm not impressed with King shocks because I am. I' merely saying that good quality shocks, set up correctly, are going to proform better then a sort of OK King shock setup. Once both are set up correctly, I dought either one would have an advantage over the other in Baja type proformance. I suspect that the reason King shocks are so expensive it that they have gained as good reputation for reliability, may be built with higher grade materials which might matter in the Baja 1000 but not for us and they probably lead in the development of the more advanced racing shocks, thus positioning the brand well. They have earned their position.

Lenny

I'm looking forward to your write up of the process. Especially the modification issues. I do weld; but engineering is way beyond me. I'm still not sure exactly what I will do; but if that mod can be done for $1500; that really gets my attention! I don't want to go larger on my wheel/tire combo. I just don't want to put more stress on the stock suspension and have breaking issues. But the long travel shock setup is really interesting. This is a great UTV Board and very beneficial for anyone who will join in and become part of our community. I keep thinking "OK; so now how do I give back?" I am planning on doing a detailed instructional thread on repainting our plastics, and cover airbrushing and pinstriping. I'm trying something new as I will be using Auto Air Colors which is a water based paint system (other than clearcoat) With that I can do the custom work in the house as it is still snowing here in Oregon. Only 33 degrees today. I'm about tired of winter by now and am going cabin crazy

My first suggestion is don't email. Only speak with people on the phone. Calling someone shows them you are truely interested. I recommend Steve at Makintrax because even though I told him up front I already had my shocks he still helped me, AND he even returned my phone calls--amazing in this day in age. He knows what he is talking about, and he would like to market his products for the Joyner if he could get his hands on one. He could very well be a constant, relibable, and cheaper alternative to King Shocks if we can get him a T2 or T4 to work with.

When dealing with Joyner owners you are dealing with a majority that likes messin' & tinkerin' wit stuff. I am absolutely impressed with the level of effort members on this forum HAVE put into passing on information. If it weren't for each other all of our machines would eventually see a boneyard, or we might eventually succumb to selling our machines due to lack of vendor support. I believe the information you seek is out there. Don't worry, as fellow T2 owner, we will get you taken care of

I would call; but I usually avoid the phone for 2 reasons. 1. I'm patially hearing impaired. I do alright if I can SEE the person talking to me because I can make out what he says by also having sight of his speech. And 2.; With email, It's always good to have a record of what is being asked and answered. And expecially for old guys like me; I hang up the phone and immediatelyy forget what I was talking about!

dont think we should dis band it yet,plenty more areas to cover.

This is the first time I've read a technical post concerning shocks that didn't fly over my head! And they are way cheaper than others too. (But I don't get why the bolts are so dang long!) Seems like you could just buy shorter grade 8 bolts?