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I don't know how quiet of a muffler you are looking for, but I used an EMPI clamp on. I think Lenny used same/similar. In my opinion its reasonably quiet. Its similar to a supertrapp at half the cost. The two biggest selling points are that the disc-type mufflers qualify as spark arresters, REQUIRED for off-road use in Arizona (check with your local DFS/BLM/DNR/etc, but its legit in AZ). Secondly, it's low back pressure for turbo those of us turbo charging and blowing our motors. http://www.empius.com/vwcatalog/2013/133.html Check out catalog P/N: 3736 (what I used) or for something even quieter, check out P/N: 3738

Went for another ride ( http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/578401809wPUGkE ) -- Wildcat Canyon and Strawberry Pinnacles, Aug 14 thru 16, 181.8 GPS Miles. Some really nice scenery and fun trails, even if some long, good roads petered into nothing and some others came to a locked gate. Had one minor accident, tried to turn around in a wide spot on a narrow road, backed up a hill with a hard right, planning to follow up with a hard left, but when I went to hit the brakes, my foot missed the brake peddle and got caught under it and I forgot the keep turning to the left and went off the road down hill until some aspens stopped me after running over some smaller ones. Put it in 4X4 and Locker and backed back up onto the road. Damage: both front fenders cracked or broken and the supports on the left side bent downward, other than that, OK, but that's plenty of damage for me, I don't want any more. Still coasting down hill or pulling to get started every morning after the engine cools off, thinking about wrapping it at night with a blanket to see if it stays warm enough to start in the morning, . There are some advantages to not working, you get to play during the week while everyone is working and you're only one out there, for better or worse! Kinarfi