1.2L Chery Engine

[2scoops]

Brostars post on the 1.9L diesel motor prompted me to research other motors. I found this:

http://cheryengine.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008830697655/pdtl/Gas-engine/1040376248/1.2L-Gasoline-Engine.htm

It appears to be basically the same engine as ours but is listed as a 1.2L. It has the exact same dimensions but has 12 more hp and 12 more ft/lb of torque. Different head perhaps? If that is the case, I am curious if it would bolt right up and how much it would be? Brostar, do you have any idea?

[brostar]

I haven’t noticed the 1.2L before at all. Interesting enough, the 1.1, 1.3, 1.6 and 2.0 Chery engines are based on the old English Ford OHV engines. This breaks away from that mould a bit more, making it more of a Chery engine. I agree, just a different head, firing bigger cannon balls. If you enlarge the two photos of the engines and flick between them, there is no difference right down to the Clutch assembly, but all this suggests is that the two engines are so close in specifications that they have use the same photo.

If the 1.2 mates up as it looks like it would then why wouldn’t you look at this as a future replacement engine over the 1.1L. The way to find out for sure is find a Chery car with a 1.2-SQR472FC engine and find out what tranny it is using, then look up the parts manuals and see if the clutch case is the same as our Troopers, that would be nice. Our Chery clutch case part # is QR512-1701101, if they match then dig deeper into the other parts like shaft connections and flywheel. I might have a quick look later when I get some time. Price wise would be similar to a 1.1L replacement engine, but I have not got prices I could quote at all. You would have to go independent from Joyner to purchase a 1.2L so push the “Inquire now” button on the 1.2L Chery engines page for a quote.

Cheers Mike.

[brostar]

A quick look at a Chery A1 that has a 1.2L Chery engine suggests that Murphy's law is in place. I can not see any common parts including shafts, flywheels and the Clutch case. They have all got different part numbers. They do however match up with a Chery QQ which is a 0.8L and a 1.1L.

A further check into the Renegades part numbers for the above parts mentioned and bingo, they match. So a Trooper and Renegade engine and transmission is out of the two Chery QQ models and both Joyner’s & QQ’s share the same tranny. There is no common connection with a Cherry A1 which has the 1.2L engine. Sorry 2scoops, but there is no easy way forward for the two to mate up.

Cheers Mike.

[2scoops]

A quick look at a Chery A1 that has a 1.2L Chery engine suggests that Murphy's law is in place. I can not see any common parts including shafts, flywheels and the Clutch case. They have all got different part numbers. They do however match up with a Chery QQ which is a 0.8L and a 1.1L.

A further check into the Renegades part numbers for the above parts mentioned and bingo, they match. So a Trooper and Renegade engine and transmission is out of the two Chery QQ models and both Joyner’s & QQ’s share the same tranny. There is no common connection with a Cherry A1 which has the 1.2L engine. Sorry 2scoops, but there is no easy way forward for the two to mate up.

Cheers Mike.

Thanks for the info. I was actually wondering if just the head might bolt on to our motor, but it sounds unlikely. Funny story about the Chery cars:

A buddy of mine used to work for Autoliv which is an airbag manufacturer. His wife still works for them and is pretty high up. Well, she is always going to China, so I asked him if they make airbags for Chery. He chuckled and said yes. He proceeded to inform me that all airbags are specifically timed to the speed of the crush zones of each specific car. He said they were unable to make one deploy fast enough for some of the Chery cars

[brostar]

2scoops, I see what you mean, sorry about that.

Here is the 1.1 and 1.2 engine blocks and heads/

1.1 Chery Block http://cherylist.com/CHERY-QQ-SWEET-CYLINDER-BLOCK-87543.aspx

1.1 Chery Head http://cherylist.com/CHERY-QQ-SWEET-CYLINDER-HEAD-87636.aspx

1.2 Chery Block http://cherylist.com/CHERY-A1-KIMO-S12-CYLINDER-101282.aspx

1.2 Chery Head http://cherylist.com/CHERY-A1-KIMO-S12-CYLINDER-HEAD-101202.aspx

It doesn’t look likely at all.

Cheers Mike.