No 5th gear in joyner trooper

[Anthony Butler]

Soo for my second problem lol, 2009 trooper 1100 5 speed , will not engage 5th gear , all others work fine but seems like 5th doesn't engage completely and wont grab the gear. Any idea on where to start looking for issues, or what to look for in regards to linkage. 

[Dan B]

Hope that there's no intenal issue.  I would check the adjusments on the cables.  You might be having issues with 1s or 3rd but they aren't manifesting themselves as 5th gear is doing.  The manual says the shift lever has to be in a vertical position when in neutral.  I expect yours is otherwise you'd have more than a 5th gear issue.  If this doesn't help, maybe an internal investigation might be in order.

[kenfain]

Have you checked the gear oil level? What about shifting when it's not running? Or if you try to manually manipulate the linkage at the transmission? 

[Anthony Butler]

I havent checked the gear oil level yet, all other gears are fine except for 5th.

 

At the shifter it "appears" to go into 5th but definitely does not in the transmission, moving or not .

[kenfain]

I have to admit, that it does sound like an internal problem. But you have to check out the easy stuff first. Like the fluid level both in the transmission, and the clutch. Low fluid levels in either, can cause shifting problems. 

On most transmissions there's an inspection plate, or a way to look inside without taking the transmission apart. Although it would still have to be removed from the vehicle. Internal problems are usually pretty easy to spot.

[Anthony Butler]

Guess it's going to be a winter project 

[kenfain]

2 hours ago, Anthony Butler said:

Guess it's going to be a winter project 

You always want to check the easy stuff first. Mostly just to give it a chance to be an easy fix. Although it almost never happens that way for me. 

So yours was likely to be an internal problem from the start. Either that or a linkage issue that can only be diagnosed, and fixed by removing the transmission. I didn't want to point that out, because sometimes it actually does turn out to be something simple. 

But the good news is, that now you can freshen up the clutch friction surfaces. As well as any seals, bearings, and cables. Increasing the reliability of an off road vehicle is always a plus.

As to that tranny. All manual transmissions are very simple. A mechanically inclined beginner can easily do this. But after pulling the transmission out, you don't feel comfortable with doing the work. Do NOT disassemble it. It's okay to open the side inspection plate and look inside. In fact, that's an important first step. Maybe it's a pin, that can be reached through the inspection plate. 

But be aware that while any competent transmission shop can fix whatever is wrong inside, and probably for a reasonable price. If you disassemble it, and end up taking it in to the shop, in pieces, in a box. They do NOT like that at ALL. If it were an old Chevy, they'd just charge ten times what the job was worth. But since they don't really have any reason to do something that's a pain in their butt. They'll probably just pass on rebuilding an unfamiliar brand. Thus leaving you in a tight spot.

So be aware of this, as well as the fact that they likely won't provide ANY parts. Unless you find some kind of Joyner mechanic, parts will be your problem alone.

Good luck with your project, and take some pictures to share with us along the way.