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Dan B

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  • Location Surprise, AZ, United States

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    Own Joyner Renegade R2-1100cc
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    Golf, aviation but had to give both up due to age related vision issues. Not bad enough to quit driving and off-reading.

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  1. It's a commercial for GMZ Race Products.
  2. Jack up the rear end, both tires off the ground. Transmission in neutral. Engine off. Manually turn one of the rear wheels. The other wheel should rotate in the opposite direction (unless the differential is locking). If not, you probably have a broken axle or spider gear.
  3. My opinion: There is no perfect ATV or UTV. They all have their + and -. You can find a lot of videos on YouTube where just about any brand will suffer some kind of failure on the trail, usually due to pushing the machine beyond its limits. The Renegade does not have a CVT but a automotive style clutch and 5-speed transmission. The CVT ride is easier because you don't have to manage the power going to the drive axles as much as you would with the Renegade especially on hilly terrain. I bought my Renegade on the used market and I like it. The 5-speed transmission is actually a 4-speed with a granny gear. Unless you're pulling a heavy load, climbing a steep hill or rock crawling, you actually treat 2nd gear as a 1st gear. The granny gear might come in handy when working the land. The Renegade, Trooper, both have the Chery 1100cc engine as you already know. That line of engine is relatively common in South America, Africa and of course Asia with the larger (>1100cc) engines used in automobiles. If any UTV has a gasoline powered 3-cyl (800cc) or 4-cyl (1100cc) engine, it might be the Chery engine. The John Deere 825i Gator has the 800cc version of this engine with a CVT. I bought mine because I couldn't see spending $15k and up for a machine that a $10k machine can do. You might have to do much of your own repairs if you can't find a dependable repair facility close to you. Would I buy another Renegade? Probably would. I don't need the CVT or fancy plastics that make other machines look sexy. Good luck on whatever decision you make. In any case, you'll like the ride.
  4. There's one in Tahachapi, CA that was trying to drum up business. I don't know anything about them. If you search on this UTV board, you might find their posting. Search "southern ca" and you'll find a posting from WCF.
  5. I think he's pretty much a one-man operation When I went there, there was him (I think his name was Jake) and a helper he hired about a month ago. But at least I got good service from him.
  6. Disclaimer: My spell checker thinks it knows more of what words I want to use than I do. Typos are not my fault. This is a general comment on the support I received from Joyner-USA in Phoenix, AZ. I needed one headlight assembly for my Renegade because the mounting pin was broken. Duct tape and bailing wire held it in place for a few years. To my surprise, they had them IN STOCK. I bought two and kept one of my good old ones as a backup. They completed their move to a new address at 2415 S 18th Pl, Phoenix AZ from their former Riverside location. As a gift, Jake gave me two T-shirts. He said he as most of the parts for my 2014 Joyner Renegade. I looked at his yard and he has several engines and UTVs in stock, mostly the 1100cc engines and several Renegades. Maybe a Trooper or two was buried in there somewhere. Everything was crated and outdoors. I hope he moves his inventory indoors, out of the weather. Their website says their hours are 9:00AM - 5:00PM but their actual hours are 10:00AM - 5:00PM. I arrived at about 9:20AM and no one was there; place locked up. I was a little upset that with a 9:00AM opening, someone should have been there. I was concerned that I made a 70 mile round trip for nothing. Fortunately, one of his employees showed up and told me of their later hours. So, everything turned out fine. I got the parts I needed and two T-shirts. This is based upon a one time, 1st time experience. I hope future vists are just as good.
  7. When an engine backfires through the intake or exhaust, the FIRST things I would check is compression. I would expect it to be low due to possible intake and/or exhaust valve not seating or the valve timing has skipped a tooth on the timing belt. A second possibility is ignition timing - firing before the intake valve has closed. Changing your own oil voids your warranty? They're looking for a scapegoat for their ineptness.
  8. You could say it's China's answer to eBay or Amazon.com. It appears that it's businesses selling through Alibaba's website.
  9. But nobody told there where the drain plug was going to be until after they put the skid plate on. I'll be looking for some U-nuts. They'll be better at reattaching my skid plate.
  10. Well, I did get the skid plate off. Used a pry bar between the skid plate and the chassis. That kept enough friction on the nut so that my impact driver could remove the screw. Now I'll have to find a way to attach it to the frame since the nuts are not accessible. Probably will consider 6mm stove bolts and nuts if I can find any. There is a large hold that is off center. If the skid plate is installed incorrectly, that hole will not line up with the oil drain plug. That is why I couldn't access my oil drain plug.
  11. Tried to remove my skid plate to access the engine oil drain plug. The plug isn't near an access hole but located between two holes. Can't get a wrench in to remove the plug. Short of drilling a new access hole (which I'm seriously considering), has any one been able to remove the skid plate? Seems to be a nut on the other end of the screw and there's no way I can access that nut. They must have bolted the skid plate on before putting the engine into the frame. Thanks in advance.
  12. I had the same problem contacting one in Phx. There might be three repair shops in Las Cruces. This site: http://joyner-usa.com/find-a-dealer/ shows 83 dealerships and repair shops. I doubt the list is current. From the many postings on this UTV site, you might have to do much of your own service and repair work due to the long distances to repair centers (unless you live near one).
  13. I can['t speak to any particular machine. I found on my machine that the engine oil drain plug is blocked by the skid plate. I'll have to cut an access hole to change the oil. That's something that no one would think to look at when evaluating any ATV, UTV or even a car. I would recommend that you go online (YouTube) or search for "problems with Sand Viper 1100" for others who have experience with these rides. I have, however, read that the differentials on the Joyner machines can be problematic. I haven't experienced any problems with my ride, yet.
  14. My opinion and only my opinion: The Joyner Trooper, Joyner Renegade and the Joyner Sand Viper all come with 1100cc fuel injected engines. The Renegade originally had an 800cc engine until 2014. I have the Renegade with the 1100cc engine. All three are similar in many ways except for outward appearances and suspension (dual A-arm vs trailing beam). The engines are manufactured by Chery (a Chinese company). Those engines are popular in South America, Africa and of course Asia. If the UTV has a 3-cyl 800cc or 4-cyl 1100cc gasoline engine, then it is most likely the Chery engine. John Deere uses the 800cc engine with a CVT transmission in their Gator line. All three have a 5-speed transmission and clutch, not a CVT/belt drive system. I'm not a fan of CVT transmissions. With the manual transmission, you have to take a more active role in managing power to the drive axle(s). The Sand Viper is only a two-wheel drive (the Trooper and Renegade has selectable 2/4WD with open or locking differentials. I bought my used Renegade from a local Craigslist seller because I like the looks of it over the other two and it was for sale in my price range. I'm happy with it so far. As with any UTV, you have to know the limitations of the UTV and don't exceed them or your limitations either. The early versions of the Joyner line had issues with quality control but they've come a long way over the years. Support may not be as prevalent as the more expensive name brand UTVs and ATVs so be prepard to do some maintenance on your own. The Sand Viper is a light machine coming in at about 1300 lbs. My Renegade is just under 1800lbs. All three are about 60 in wide so don't consider putting it in the back of a pickup. You will need a trailer (5-1/2ft x10 ft bed size as a minimum). I would recommend you view some YouTube videos on the various UTVs you are considering and get other opinions. Good luck on your search and I hope you find the ride of your life - it will be fun.
  15. People who repossess cars use them. They are wheeled platforms that are placed under the tires of one axle to lift it off the ground so that it can be towed. If the transmission is in park, for example, they place the dollies under the drive axle so that it can be towed. Another style that UHaul and others rent (you can buy them, too). You place the drive axle on the dolly and tow the vehicle with a standard ball hitch. Google "tow dolly" for more info.


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