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    Own Joyner Renegade R2-1100cc
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  1. Is there an independent manufacturer of Joyner parts? Seems like everything important to Joyner machines has to come from China (engines, transmissions, differentials, etc).
  2. A CVT for the Trooper and Renegade won't work. The CVT requires a transverse (cross-wise) engine mount. The Trooper and Renegade have longitudinal engine mountings.
  3. Those connectors are quite common in automotive systems. You might try NAPA or other parts stores. They physical size would be your limiting factor.
  4. How slightly up hill is it? Your 800cc engine in the R4 might not be enough engine if all the seats are occupied by adults.. That's probably why Joyner went to the 1100cc engine in 2014. How is performance on level roads? Check spark plug gap. Check plug wires. My car's plug wires were bad causing me to lose power going up hills. High voltage was arcing to grounb causing misfires and losing power.
  5. A battery can discharge through a bad diode in the alternator. Check the charging voltage. Should be 13.5+ - 14.5+ volts.
  6. Remove the gas cap and see if it starts right up. If it does, your gas cap vent is plugged. Air needs to get into the gas tank to replace the fuel that is consumed.
  7. Wow! That's just under 1 liter per mile. You should see a LOT of black smoke out the exhaust of that 2-cyl engine and maybe a rough running engine. If you had an external leak in the fuel system that would be a very noticeable leak. Being new, I would first check for a leakkng injector. You can search for "poor gas mileage" and it will give you a few things to check.
  8. I ordered and got the one that Jhen posted. A little cumbersome to install but not impossible. The same bolts that hold the master cylinder to the firewal also holds the brake pedal mounting bracket to the firewall. Holding the master cylinder and the brake pedal and and the push rod in place and trying to start a bolt is a test of patience.
  9. Was that oil light and pressure reading while idle? Mine does that, too at idle. The problem with Chery engines is that the oil pump barely has the volume needed at idle to maintain 10 psi per 1,000 rpms. I put 50 weight oil in mine and it helps a little (15 psi at idle). I bought a replacement on Amazon (VDO brand) because I thought I had the same issue. No change. But they are common on Amazon. You might consider checking the oil pressure with an independent gauge (that's not made in China).
  10. Have the head and block mating surfaces checked. Sure sounds like a warped head or maybe a crack between the cooland and oil passages. Common occurrance when overheted and run until it runs no more. If warped, might be able to have the head and/or block machined. A crack can also be repaired (maybe).
  11. The major issue with Joyners is scarce parts support stateside. John Deere uses a CVT on their 825i - no gear shift cable that I know of that works on the Renegade. The shift cables have different part numbers for the same cable. One has a eye on both ends of the cable P/N: S800.05.02.02-R2 or 02.S800.05.02.02 (two different part numbers, same cable). The other cable has a threaded nut on one end, eyelet on the other P/N: S800.05.02.01-R2 or 02.S800.05.02.01 (two different part numbers, same cable). If you can't find someone who can build you a new cable, maybe, just maybe Joyner-USA can help. if you can find and contact them. They're in Mesa, AZ. Their phone number to their address at 1050 West Main in Mesa 480-882-9612. Their Riverview and 18th Pl addresses are way out of date. I was able to get two tires w/rims and two headlights from them in stock. But that was a few years ago.
  12. If the shifter is in the vertical position, no adjustment is necessary. I hope I never have to adjust the cables. The adjustments are just to the rear of the shift lever under the center console. There's no access to the adjustments on my ride. I'd probably have to cut the plastic console to create an access opening. The other option is to remove the center console - a job in itself. The person who wrote the adjustment procedure never addressed how to access the adjustments.
  13. Fuel pressure on those Chery 800/1100 engines should be 50 psi according to my manual. As for the engine cutting off immediately after start, mine does that too if the battery is slightly under charged (fron sitting too long). It's still strong enough to crank the engine over but won't continue to run unless I give it some gas to raise the idle to about 1500 rpms for a few seconds. Then it starts and runs fine after that. Mine won't start unless I give the ECM time to boot up and cycle the gauges before moving the keyswitch to "start". Could it be possible you're drawing air into the fuel system somewhere along the line?
  14. In 2014, they Renegade went to the 1100cc engine. I don't know if the exta 300cc makes much of a difference in performance. They have a manual transmission and clutch, much like a car. You'll have to be proactive in managing power to the drive axles; not as easy to do on extremely hilly terrain, but is doable. Some commented on quality issues in the early Joyner models but I can't confirm that. I've never had any major issues with my machine.
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