Jarrad

That's daven in Farmington

I have nothing, as of today I am no longer employed with no limits powersports

Everyone has been pretty quiet last 24 hours. Everyone fall off the face of the earth?

I don't remember the dealer but it is not the dealers fault for a fact

Also note he bought this unit from a dealer in Alabama

On a side note, a customer called me has a renegade, broke his rear diff, he bought this renegade brand new. He took it apart had Trooper rear gears in it, 15/32 tooth I told him to go ahead and pull down the front to see whats in it and he had the 14/32 in front, so he has been working against himself while in 4X4 since he first bought it.

Jarrad, I'm a newbee and just bought a Commando diff from you and I haven't installed it yet, should I check it before I install it and if so what do I need to look for?

It never hurts to check and double check. you could take it apart and check all the bolts for tightness and proper grade, also that it is shimmed correctly. Or stick it in and run the piss out of it.. you got a 30 day warranty better use it while you can

We had our Joyner 650 Sand Spider out this weekend at Pismo and had a blast with it. The front tires throw a lot of sand, so I've got to put some sort of fender or extended body part up to stop that, and I put a 6 Sigma partial jet kit in it, which made it ever so much easier to start, but the carb got a little sand in something and it stopped running right at the end.

So to my question - one of the guys had a Joyner 4 seater that had the 1600 4 cylinder in it, and felt it was too low on power, so he put a 3.1 Chevy V6/auto in it. He's selling the whole takeout, engine, trans, and computer for $500. Would it fit? I've heard of putting an 800 in a 650, but has anyone done a 1600?

Anything is possible with a welder and a bender

Seems like that thing would be super ass heavy.. maybe that motor belongs in a trooper instead

Date was set as June 24-26th about two months ago. What has not been determined was location.

Ooops sorry, I have the attention span of a 5 year old, and must have missed here you said that while skimming through it all

Come on down I will have an extra seat. Or better yet drive my buggy and I will hitch a ride with someone

The bolts were equivalent to grade 5. Im replacing those bolts with bolts that have about a half inch shoulder. Im also going to re-tap the holes for 3/8 size bolts that are 12.9.

Took you long enough to show up

What does it say on the heads of the bolts? Should say something like 8.8 or 12.9. If it's 8.8, the bolts were not upgraded. Is there any signs of the diff being re-shimmed for proper running clearances or did the whole thing just feel sloppy?

Lenny

I did not take it apart CrawlinT2 did, he is in Alabama, but he said he took the bolts to a local bolt shop and they told him they were grade 5 or so bolts. When I get to the shop in the morning I am going to disassemble one of these new upgraded diffs and check bolts in them. I have personally checked backlash on all the ones I have sent out and they seem to be right on the money. This diff was sent to him well over a year agobefore TJU went out of buisness, so it may not have been as upgraded as the new ones are? I will keep you posted as I break one down and see whats inside it this coming week.

Jarrad

Here is pictured of the upgraded diff after a year of hard use by crawlinT2

I have a Few of the oem ones here and one I had remaned by my local guy. As far as an after market one I have not found one yet

I have put this idea on hold for now. This motor will not bolt to our current tranny and talking with them I would need to purchase 12 motors. Maybe for 2012

How close are we on a date? Got the go ahead from the boss to go.

Why are you cruising the Internet and not assembling the trooper?

Hi guys, I am new to this site, but i have been a dealer for joyner for over 4 years. I have installed about 6 complete sets of KING shocks on different troopers, and every customer has told me that it was the best money they ever spent.I run a turboed 800 sand viper with the Kings in the back and can tell you its day and night. King has several diferent combinations for the trooper. I highly recomend them.

Welcome Mudslinger, glad you finally made it to the board. I have also used the Kings, they are a little pricey, but they do work well.

Jarrad

I would love to see the diesel coming in the renegade later this year to see what we can do to it.

I always figured that could be a future project. Re-designing would be a must and I would redesign the entire suspension and running gear. Hey, currently there are a lot of people putting lots of big bucks into their machines to get them to preform correctly. I wouldn't have any problem paying an extra $5000-$6000 extra for a kick ass machine that did everything well, real well. Have a diesel with 31" tires stock and a good 14 to 18" of great suspension and a low range. We could probably get Flatbed to help on the suspension design. He not only does do that as a professional he also came in 2nd overall in the Baja 1000 to back up his ability. Wow, it could get exciting.

Lenny

That would be fun, There is so much more you could do with a diesel motor to squeeze more power out of them, only downside of that motor is that it is a common rail system. They can be enhanced, but not as well as the older diesels.. with those the sky and your pocket book is the limit.

Jarrad

I think stock that we are running about 95 LB FT of torque and this engine is 134. That is a nice increase and the engine is small enough to probably fit ok and I think the drive line would hold it ok. Not if your letting the clutch fly. You could probably buy the whole engine for less then a supercharger installation. Then again they also make a small diesel that has about 220 LB FT of torque and a nice 6 speed tranny to go with it. That is the one I like. Now you are getting serious. I sujested to JMC when they first took over the line to have a Trooper made from the factory with that combination. In fact, I offered my services free of charge if they would let me help redesign the Trooper. Never heard back. "This concept has so much potential, I would like to see it built to what it's potential is.

Lenny

Lenny, I shot you an E-mail.. That diesel motor looks good, but there would probably have to be a whole re-design of the ass end of the buggy to make it work, not to mention that there would need to be big upgrades to the differentials. I got my first pictures the otehr day from a customer who got one of the "upgraded" diffs about a year and a few months ago... It was not a pretty sight, although the ring and pinion did survive.

I want one quick. Just have to do a little research. Maybe no limits can build some limited edition trooper S's

Cruising the web, I tripped over this and am trying to figure out how to get one and how to make it work.

http://cheryengine.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008830697655/pdtl/Gas-engine/1040363314/1.3L-SC-Gasoline-Engine.htm

The stock steering shaft has the outer hollow tube at the top and inner solid part at the bottom, has anyone reversed this and is there any reason why this couldn't or shouldn't be done? If I do it, it puts all my sensor up top instead of down under and makes it a lot easier to get too.

Kinarfi

I have seen them in upside down, and I don't think it makes any difference at all as to the orientation of the shaft.

I hear the Russians do some crazy stuff with thier buggies. But have seen no proof yet