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Just bought a new Sector 750. It's slightly better looking and equipped than the Axis 700 models they sell at Lowes or the RK and other versions but there's very little difference in the frame and drive train. Seems to be a good machine to use around the farm and riding around the neighborhood. If you own any of these Hisun made machines, you may have similar issues. After driving this around on some country roads doing some break in riding, an extraordinary amount of radiant heat was emitting out from behind the seat and under the dump bed. The engine temp was showing normal on the gauge. The source of the extreme heat was mainly the muffler, and it was even hot enough to soften the plastic underside of the dump bed. You could smell the plastic was almost at that melting temp.  I've never seen anything like this on any brand of machine. This could possibly qualify for a safety recall. Back at the shop afterwards to study the situation revealed some suspected bad exhaust designs to be the main cause. The pipe going into the muffler from the engine is 1 3/4 inch in size. The pipe coming out of the muffler is 3/4 inch. A one inch difference! That's a lot of very hot gases going in through a large opening, compressing inside the chambers of that muffler, and trying to get out through a much smaller hole. Simple science will tell you that even cool air when compressed gets hot. Science has also shown that hot air flows faster than cool air. This muffler by design is causing already hot gasses emitted from the engine to be accumulating, compressing and therefore amplifying that temperature to far greater temps than what the engine itself was emitting. I'm sure all that back pressure is also causing the engine to labor some too and wasting HP. The same muffler appears to be used on the 550, 700, or 750 Hisun variants. The exhaust tip on the back of the muffler is removable and when you do there will be even more engineering issues revealed. The 3/4 inch pipe extends inside the rear chamber of the muffler about 3 inches. There is a metal case over and around the internal 3/4 inch pipe section with a steel screen around that. If the 3/4 inch outlet wasn't bad enough, that case and screen cause even more restriction and back pressure compression. Those of us who turn wrenches already know that screen is only in there because of certain mandated requirements, but now we're talking about outflow that would be around the equivalent to a 1/2 inch outlet with all this. The first attempt to reduce the extreme exhaust temps was done by just removing the screen and cage from the internal section of the exhaust tip. The 3/4 inch tip was reinstalled as just the pipe and the machine test driven again. No longer had quite the extreme scorching heat but still felt like the exhaust temp was still too high. I did notice that the radiant heat from the lower exhaust pipe section which is about 4 inches from the drive shaft was enough to melt and burn the rubber boot that covers the shaft yoke just behind the u-joint. Don't know yet if the rubber parts of the u-joint were compromised. The next attempt to mitigate this problem was to manufacture a new exhaust tip with greater outflow. One that would have the same size pipe on the outflow side to relieve this engine of back pressure and fix the heat problem. My car, my riding lawnmower and other brand UTVs have mufflers designed this way, why not this Hisun machine? I could not find any aftermarket companies that already make this part, so now I do. If you are handy with a mig welder, a drill and some hole saws, then you can make this part too for around $20 worth of materials. (Bi-metal hole saws not included) It's up to you what angle you want coming out of the tip. I went with 90 degrees and a slight downward angle, but 45 degrees will work too. The exhaust outlet is now also a 1 3/4 inch pipe. This seems to have fully solved the extreme exhaust heat problem. The engine idles smoother now, and I do not notice any louder exhaust noise than what I had before. In fact, it's actually quieter now because the high-pressure air release noise the original tip made is gone. The issue of the lower pipe heat next to the drive shaft is still being evaluated. Possible fixes for that if still needed would be a shield wrap on that section of the exhaust pipe or a clamp-on aluminum shield. People, this is an engineering issue, no warranty can fix this. Attached are some pictures I took during this project. Good luck with your Hisun machines.

Safe trails, E      

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Nice write up, thanks. For those that cannot fab an exhaust outlet, the Silent Rider silencer includes an adapter similar to the one you made while ditching the spark arrestor.  I believe you can order just the adapter as the silencer itself is pretty pricey. [For install see my write-up on addressing high cab noise in this forum.] I have not noticed the level of heat causing damage in my 750 but I had very low hours on it prior to removing the spark arrestor and installing the silencer.  I have also considered adding some type of reflective heat shield under the bed, such as aluminum diamond plate, which would also serve to further reduce cab sound levels. 

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Great idea! If Silent Rider sells the exhaust tip only, I highly recommend anyone who has any of these Hisun variants that use that muffler replace those tips. That alone will greatly reduce the extreme muffler temp and the emitting radiant heat problem. I did make a better heat shield of slightly larger size over the muffler for extra redundancy and heat deflection. Unfortunately, after more testing, I was unable to overcome the other issue of the heat from the pipe near the drive shaft which burned and melted the shaft boot. That section of pipe was then wrapped along with an additional shield clamped on over that. Some hard testing seems to show it fixed that problem. Pulled over several times to check it with engine still running and I was able to actually place my hand over that boot and found it to be just a little warm. Feel comfortable to go ahead and replaced that boot now. Attached are more photos to illustrate this reply   

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2022 hisun 750 sector Hot exhaust

I am new to the Hisun products. Like any other product, I see things I would change.  I am doing the same fabrication on my exhaust pipe as you have done.  When the tip is removed (with 5 screws) it is possible to look inside and see the port from the cat converter onto the muffler chamber is the same 3/4 or 1".  It is the same unit as the 550.  It is too small an opening. Tooooo much restriction.  I hope to find some satisfaction with this mod. I'm still under 100 miles and looking forward to having a decent running machine sorting out the issues.

Mike C.

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very good wright up,  i just bought  a 2022 sector 750 it had 3 miles on it,   now it has 18 so have not had any issues yet,  i know there  coming  im a retired mechanic  and i see things im going to change  first the the muffler  mod   i glad i found this post.  

 

thanks 

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