Bogging down in 2nd

[Zorro]

My 1100 Trooper runs great but when I get on it in 2nd gear it seems to be bogging down and sputters like a rev limiter is kicking in to soon. 3rd, 4th and 5th gears runs out great with no issues. Any ideas wnat would cause this in 2nd gear?

[Guest Lenny]

My 1100 Trooper runs great but when I get on it in 2nd gear it seems to be bogging down and sputters like a rev limiter is kicking in to soon. 3rd, 4th and 5th gears runs out great with no issues. Any ideas wnat would cause this in 2nd gear?

If your up above 6000 RPMs or so you probably will hit the rev limiter . I used to all the time on mine until I went to bigger tires and did some other things which completely changer how the engine runs. The stock Trooper would hit it's sweet spot at around 4300 RPMs and in second it would rev to over 6000 quickly.

Lenny

[BeeZee62]

If your up above 6000 RPMs or so you probably will hit the rev limiter . I used to all the time on mine until I went to bigger tires and did some other things which completely changer how the engine runs. The stock Trooper would hit it's sweet spot at around 4300 RPMs and in second it would rev to over 6000 quickly.

Lenny

I experience something similar in third gear around 3000 rpm and then after a short while it kicks in again around 4200.

Barry

[rocmoc]

Turbo lag!, LOL!

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[Zorro]

If your up above 6000 RPMs or so you probably will hit the rev limiter . I used to all the time on mine until I went to bigger tires and did some other things which completely changer how the engine runs. The stock Trooper would hit it's sweet spot at around 4300 RPMs and in second it would rev to over 6000 quickly.

Lenny

Hey Lenny, yeah it does it as it gets close to 6000rpm and that comes really fast. Im running 15" wheels with 29 inch street tires right now. Do you have any suggestions for changing anything up.

Also have a few more dumb questions as I do not have a manuel to study, Do I need to service the carcoal canister fi so how?

Oli preasure gauge does not work on the dash, would that normally be the gauge or sending unit? Is the sending unit what I see

just above the oil filter to the right with the wires connceting to it?

What is the gauge for on the drivers side by the radiator I am guessing it is a fuel preasure gauge? it registers on 6 when at an idel, is that normal? Also it looks like there is supose to be a small vacume hose attached to it that is pointing towards the back?

Thanks for your help

Greg

[Kinarfi]

Hey Lenny, yeah it does it as it gets close to 6000rpm and that comes really fast. Im running 15" wheels with 29 inch street tires right now. Do you have any suggestions for changing anything up.

Also have a few more dumb questions as I do not have a manuel to study, Do I need to service the carcoal canister fi so how?

Oli preasure gauge does not work on the dash, would that normally be the gauge or sending unit? Is the sending unit what I see

just above the oil filter to the right with the wires connceting to it?

What is the gauge for on the drivers side by the radiator I am guessing it is a fuel preasure gauge? it registers on 6 when at an idel, is that normal? Also it looks like there is supose to be a small vacume hose attached to it that is pointing towards the back?

Yep, fuel pressure gauge, and that 6 is 60 psi.

Thanks for your help

Greg

Here is something else about the fuel pressure gauge, It is NOT sealed and will fill up with dirt and water, it will dry out, but it looks like crap. I gently tapped the ring off and cleaned every thing up, washed the dirt out with water and blew it dry with my air compressor and then sealed the glass to the ring and siliconed the bottom and wrapped tape around ring.

[Guest Lenny]

Hey Lenny, yeah it does it as it gets close to 6000rpm and that comes really fast. Im running 15" wheels with 29 inch street tires right now. Do you have any suggestions for changing anything up.

Also have a few more dumb questions as I do not have a manuel to study, Do I need to service the carcoal canister fi so how? Oli preasure gauge does not work on the dash, would that normally be the gauge or sending unit? Is the sending unit what I see. just above the oil filter to the right with the wires connceting to it?

What is the gauge for on the drivers side by the radiator I am guessing it is a fuel preasure gauge? it registers on 6 when at an idel, is that normal? Also it looks like there is supose to be a small vacume hose attached to it that is pointing towards the back?

Thanks for your help

Greg

Tires:

29" should be OK. A few of us run larger, 30-31" but I'm not sure there is an advantage on bigger unless in the sand maybe. I just like the look of a big tire

Canister:

I don't think so but I really don't know on that one. There is a valve on the rear of the fuel rail (where injectors are) that goes to the canister. This valve can go bab but I havn't done mine so I don't know how to check it but it will ba in the book.

Oil pressure:

It could be either. You want to get it working so you don't end up running with out oil pressure. Yours is an electric pressure sensor and gauge. You can unscrew the sensor and replace it with mechanical sensor that runs a pressure line to the gauge. Check with your auto parts dealer.

Hope this helps

Lenny

[Zorro]

Turned out the gauge was shot and not a single original one could be be found. I debated on just going with a manual unit but I had a few concerns fearing the heat from the headers might melt the plastic tubing and or something would catch on the tubing

with the kind of trail riding we do. Anyway I bought a new gauge and sending unit from the local parts store then I ran into a new problem, the bezel on the original is much wider than the new one, so the new one just fell throught the hole in the dash. I did not

have a way to make a back plate that wouldnt look like crape so I traveled to every auto parts store I could find and they all had the same thing. I finally went to a marine store and they had one that fit perfect, which was probably the best way to go for being exposed to the elements. I was excited to see 60 psi when I fired it up concidering it did not work when I bought it.

Thanks for all your help

[Kinarfi]

Turned out the gauge was shot and not a single original one could be be found. I debated on just going with a manual unit but I had a few concerns fearing the heat from the headers might melt the plastic tubing and or something would catch on the tubing

with the kind of trail riding we do. Anyway I bought a new gauge and sending unit from the local parts store then I ran into a new problem, the bezel on the original is much wider than the new one, so the new one just fell throught the hole in the dash. I did not

have a way to make a back plate that wouldn't look like crape so I traveled to every auto parts store I could find and they all had the same thing. I finally went to a marine store and they had one that fit perfect, which was probably the best way to go for being exposed to the elements. I was excited to see 60 psi when I fired it up concidering it did not work when I bought it.

Thanks for all your help

Good job, can you supply some part numbers and where you got your stuff, maybe even a photo of the new gauge & adapter.

One thing I have found that work well for adapting is 2 pieces of 1/8" lexan, left over from my airplane crash, paint it black on the back side and it's nice & shiny. If you have an aversion to poking holes in you dash for new switches, indicator lights & such, that little hole above the steering wheel works well for temporary things. use 2 pieces of flexible plastic and a bolt or something the hold them together.

Kinarfi

[Guest Lenny]

Good job, can you supply some part numbers and where you got your stuff, maybe even a photo of the new gauge & adapter.

One thing I have found that work well for adapting is 2 pieces of 1/8" lexan, left over from my airplane crash, paint it black on the back side and it's nice & shiny. If you have an aversion to poking holes in you dash for new switches, indicator lights & such, that little hole above the steering wheel works well for temporary things. use 2 pieces of flexible plastic and a bolt or something the hold them together.

Kinarfi

Eventually, I'm going to replace the flat part of the dash where the gauges are with a piece of aluminum. The plastic lense in my tach and speedo gauges are loosing their transparancy and will need to be replaced anyway. I want to re-arrange the gauges and find ones that I can see better in poor light and night time. At 65, I'm lucky to even see the dash at all. Currently in my case, I cut holes at will.

Lenny

[Zorro]

Good job, can you supply some part numbers and where you got your stuff, maybe even a photo of the new gauge & adapter.

One thing I have found that work well for adapting is 2 pieces of 1/8" lexan, left over from my airplane crash, paint it black on the back side and it's nice & shiny. If you have an aversion to poking holes in you dash for new switches, indicator lights & such, that little hole above the steering wheel works well for temporary things. use 2 pieces of flexible plastic and a bolt or something the hold them together.

Kinarfi

I found these at a Local Marine Suppy store

Sending Unit -- TeleFlex Morse Part # IA15001 0-80 psi, 240-33 ohm

Gauge -- TeleFlex Morse Part # 57903P 0-80 psi, 240-33 ohm

Manufactured by Veethree Elec. & Marine LLC

The gauge looks great and has a bright light, easy to see and read at night.

You can't mix match these, you have to replace both keeping the (240-33ohm) or you will not get a correct reading.

Unlike the combos sold at the auto parts store, these two are sold seperatly and togeather cost aprox $80.00 UGH, Oh well it fits perfect, works and looks great!

[Kinarfi]

I found these at a Local Marine Suppy store

Sending Unit -- TeleFlex Morse Part # IA15001 0-80 psi, 240-33 ohm

Gauge -- TeleFlex Morse Part # 57903P 0-80 psi, 240-33 ohm

Manufactured by Veethree Elec. & Marine LLC

The gauge looks great and has a bright light, easy to see and read at night.

You can't mix match these, you have to replace both keeping the (240-33ohm) or you will not get a correct reading.

Unlike the combos sold at the auto parts store, these two are sold seperatly and togeather cost aprox $80.00 UGH, Oh well it fits perfect, works and looks great!

I have been following this because mine is messing up, but to clarify, this dropped in the existing holes with no modification, Correct?

You can expect to see this in Parts & pieces, so any information is appreciated.

Kinarfi

[Zorro]

I have been following this because mine is messing up, but to clarify, this dropped in the existing holes with no modification, Correct?

You can expect to see this in Parts & pieces, so any information is appreciated.

Kinarfi

Thats correct, I spend a whole day running all over the Dallas area going to every different auto part and performance stores I could find. With every single one I found the bezel was just barely larger than the two" body so the guage would just fall through the cut out in the dash. This one I fould at the marine store had the same bezel width as the original gauge and fit perfectly in the dash. It was worth all my time tracking this down because I did not want to cut a new hole in my dash and I am not talented enought to make a back plate that would have suported the gauge and still look nice.

My cut out seemed a little hogged out, others may have a cleaner cut out where a regular gauge will fit. I like the idea that this is desighed for marine use so it should hold up to the weather and powerwashing as aposed to one made for the interior or a car.

I will take a pic of it and try to get it on here today. Nice to know I can contribute something here