Quantcast
Jump to content

1.2L Chery Engine


Recommended Posts

Brostars post on the 1.9L diesel motor prompted me to research other motors. I found this:

http://cheryengine.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008830697655/pdtl/Gas-engine/1040376248/1.2L-Gasoline-Engine.htm

It appears to be basically the same engine as ours but is listed as a 1.2L. It has the exact same dimensions but has 12 more hp and 12 more ft/lb of torque. Different head perhaps? If that is the case, I am curious if it would bolt right up and how much it would be? Brostar, do you have any idea?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I haven’t noticed the 1.2L before at all. Interesting enough, the 1.1, 1.3, 1.6 and 2.0 Chery engines are based on the old English Ford OHV engines. This breaks away from that mould a bit more, making it more of a Chery engine. I agree, just a different head, firing bigger cannon balls. If you enlarge the two photos of the engines and flick between them, there is no difference right down to the Clutch assembly, but all this suggests is that the two engines are so close in specifications that they have use the same photo.

If the 1.2 mates up as it looks like it would then why wouldn’t you look at this as a future replacement engine over the 1.1L. The way to find out for sure is find a Chery car with a 1.2-SQR472FC engine and find out what tranny it is using, then look up the parts manuals and see if the clutch case is the same as our Troopers, that would be nice. Our Chery clutch case part # is QR512-1701101, if they match then dig deeper into the other parts like shaft connections and flywheel. I might have a quick look later when I get some time. Price wise would be similar to a 1.1L replacement engine, but I have not got prices I could quote at all. You would have to go independent from Joyner to purchase a 1.2L so push the “Inquire now” button on the 1.2L Chery engines page for a quote.

Cheers Mike.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A quick look at a Chery A1 that has a 1.2L Chery engine suggests that Murphy's law is in place. I can not see any common parts including shafts, flywheels and the Clutch case. They have all got different part numbers. They do however match up with a Chery QQ which is a 0.8L and a 1.1L.

A further check into the Renegades part numbers for the above parts mentioned and bingo, they match. So a Trooper and Renegade engine and transmission is out of the two Chery QQ models and both Joyner’s & QQ’s share the same tranny. There is no common connection with a Cherry A1 which has the 1.2L engine. Sorry 2scoops, but there is no easy way forward for the two to mate up.

Cheers Mike.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A quick look at a Chery A1 that has a 1.2L Chery engine suggests that Murphy's law is in place. I can not see any common parts including shafts, flywheels and the Clutch case. They have all got different part numbers. They do however match up with a Chery QQ which is a 0.8L and a 1.1L.

A further check into the Renegades part numbers for the above parts mentioned and bingo, they match. So a Trooper and Renegade engine and transmission is out of the two Chery QQ models and both Joyner’s & QQ’s share the same tranny. There is no common connection with a Cherry A1 which has the 1.2L engine. Sorry 2scoops, but there is no easy way forward for the two to mate up.

Cheers Mike.

Thanks for the info. I was actually wondering if just the head might bolt on to our motor, but it sounds unlikely. Funny story about the Chery cars:

A buddy of mine used to work for Autoliv which is an airbag manufacturer. His wife still works for them and is pretty high up. Well, she is always going to China, so I asked him if they make airbags for Chery. He chuckled and said yes. He proceeded to inform me that all airbags are specifically timed to the speed of the crush zones of each specific car. He said they were unable to make one deploy fast enough for some of the Chery cars :lol:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2scoops, I see what you mean, sorry about that.

Here is the 1.1 and 1.2 engine blocks and heads/

1.1 Chery Block http://cherylist.com/CHERY-QQ-SWEET-CYLINDER-BLOCK-87543.aspx

1.1 Chery Head http://cherylist.com/CHERY-QQ-SWEET-CYLINDER-HEAD-87636.aspx

1.2 Chery Block http://cherylist.com/CHERY-A1-KIMO-S12-CYLINDER-101282.aspx

1.2 Chery Head http://cherylist.com/CHERY-A1-KIMO-S12-CYLINDER-HEAD-101202.aspx

It doesn’t look likely at all.

Cheers Mike.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Similar Topics

    • By BOYD
      I have a 2004 KUBOTA RTV 900 DIESEL and I need to replace both front cv axels.I have been online looking at them and there seems to be a lot of different manufactures to choose from. My question is who makes a good aftermarket set of cv axels for this KUBOTA. I have read horror stories of people buying the  cheap Chinese brand only to find out they don't fit or they don't last very long and fail again. I hate to have to spend over $200 a shaft to get OEM from KUBOTA when I'm sure there is a company out there who probably makes it for them or makes comparable to OEM. Thanks for your help.
    • By Mark T
      MY 400 is gutless. I would like to know if I can upgrade to a larger engine ?
    • By Steve B
      My "R" light on the dash will not go out when I take the UTV out of reverse and put it into any other gear. Is this just the light switch issue or will this effect engine performance in the other gears?
    • By Hugh
      My 2018 Hisun sector crew engine cut off after about 15 minutes run. There is no indicator of what is wrong, no error code just die and won't restart until it cool down. I notice that the fan is not running but the temp indicator is on low temp, no overheat indicator. I checked the radiator fluid, it is cool to touch.
      Cooling fans are working, I can hear it running once awhile if I can get the engine warm up enough.  Thank you for all the help.
       
      Hugh
    • By aefron88
      This post will explain how to hook up your PC to the ECU of a Hisun/Coleman/Etc UTV to be able to read error codes & engine parameters for troubleshooting purposes.
      This is applicable to all small engines using the Delphi MT-05 ECU. This should cover all fuel injected Hisun models, as well as various other Chinese FI engines, as the Delphi MT-05 ECU seems to be the favored ECU solution.
      Even though we get actual engine error codes to display on the dash, sometimes we have “pending codes” (not yet confirmed by the ECU) or other intermittent issues that are hard to diagnose, for example a poorly connected sensor that may give intermittent false readings, or a sensor that’s putting out bad date, but not bad enough for the ECU to realize.
      The setup requires 2 cables, which are available for around $25 combined, a PC with a USB port, and some charityware software called “HUD ECU Hacker”. This gives the same functionality as the $300 dealer code scanner for a fraction of the price.
      In searching I found info about HUD ECU Hacker, but I have yet to see info anywhere about how to hook it up to a Hisun, so I took the leap and bought some cables, and made it work. I will show a step by step of how to do so in post two.
      I will be breaking this down into 2 posts:
      Delphi ECU Info & Overview (This post) System setup & use Delphi ECU Info (Skip ahead to the next post if your eyes glaze over technical details)
      The Delphi MT-05 ECU was developed to allow small engines to use fuel injection. A fuel injection system requires feedback from various sensors to operate efficiently. This feedback allows the adjustment of ignition timing, fuel injection volume, etc to efficiently and cleanly produce the most power possible from a given engine.
      The MT-05 ECU has a number of sensors that are required for proper functioning including; Coolant temp, crankshaft position, intake temp, intake pressure, exhaust O2, throttle position, as well as some other optional sensors that are used on more complex vehicles.
      From the sensors the ECU adjusts: Fuel injector timing/pulse, Idle air control valve, and ignition coil

      The Delphi MT-05 puts out diagnostic data, however it is not ODB2 like a modern car, where is where it gets tricky reading it. There are three options, there is an old 16 bit piece of software Delphi has that is not able to run on a modern computer, there is the motorscanner tool for dealers ($300), or there is freeware HUD ECU Hacker with the proper cables.
×
×
  • Create New...