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    #1 BEDROCK

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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 03:24 PM

    Does anyone know if a rear diff from an 1100 will fit in a T2? I have an 1100 rear diff for sale on Ebay and I was asked this question but I do not know the answer.. Thanks in advance for the help.


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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:36 PM

    Does anyone know if a rear diff from an 1100 will fit in a T2? off of 1100 what ?


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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:49 PM

    sorry a Joyner 1100 renegade


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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:54 PM

    Everything is the same but the gear ratios are different. The Renegade has a lower ratio.

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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:58 PM

    I would trade you a Trooper rear diff for the Renegade diff. I already have a Renegade front diff.

    First, how do you know it is a Renegade? They look exactly the same.

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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:35 PM

    I didn't know there was a 1100cc renegade.

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    Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:06 PM

    Think you are correct Lenny, it was a 800cc I believe.

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    Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:48 AM

    Sand Viper came with an 1100cc engine also.According to parts manual for the sand viper and Trooper rear diff parts have same part numbers.

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    Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:08 PM

    would anyone be able to tell what it was from pictures or a serial number? I would really like to get rid of this one, and get the correct one that I need.. Let me know and I will post pictures.
    Thanks


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    Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:35 PM

    might help,post the photos and the numbers on the housing.But as i said before all the part numbers joyner listed for the diffs on the trooper and 1100 viper match up.

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    Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:01 PM

    But he is talking about a Renegade which I still believe was only a 800cc. I am pretty sure the Viper came as a 1100, 1600 & 2000.

    BUT the viper did not have a locker diff and the Renegade did.

    Where are our remaining Dealers? They should be jumping in here with the info!!!!!

    BEDROCK,
    Does your diff have the locker feature? If it doesn't it isn't for a Trooper or Renegade but a Viper.

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    Posted 10 January 2012 - 06:00 PM

    here is what I have.. I am not too familiar with it, as this is the first time having to deal with a rear diff. I'm learning fast though.
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    Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:11 PM

    It has the locker so it's a Renegade or Trooper. Lets try doing this, The renegade differential is lower geared then the Trooper but they are fairly close. Turn the input shaft and see how many turns it takes to turn the output shafts exactly one revolution. Both output shafts have to turn together for this to work correctly. You must be very accurate. The Renegade has a 14 tooth pinion gear (input shaft) and a 32 tooth ring gear while the Trooper has a 15 tooth input shaft with a 32 tooth ring gear. The Renegade gear ratio is then 2.285 turns of the pinion gear to one turn of the output shafts and the Trooper has a ratio of 2.133:1. The input shaft spleen has 27 teeth or spleens on it. That means that if you counted the spleen teeth as you rotated the shaft the Renegade input shaft would rotate a total of 61.71 teeth and the Trooper would rotate 57.59 spleen teeth. That is about 4 teeth difference and this should be able to be seen. If you know what the gear ratio is, you will know what differential you have.

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    Posted 11 January 2012 - 10:03 AM

    Thanks Lenny I will take a look at this when I get home tonight. I appreciate all of your help. When I get mine back together finally we will have to go hit some trails!


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    Posted 11 January 2012 - 10:34 AM

    Sounds good

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    Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:08 AM

    Ok Lenny i took a look at the diff last night and this is what I came up with. The input shaft has 27 splines, and the output shaft (axle sides) have 32 splines. They do turn together when I turn the input shaft. I marked the starting point with a grease pen and turned the input shaft two full revolutions and it puts the output shaft over it's mark by 3 splines. Meaning it went over it's starting point by 3 splines. So does this tell you what I have?
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    Posted 12 January 2012 - 11:45 AM

    I didn't make it clear that both outputs shafts have to turn the same amount. Also I said that it had the locker, But I suspose that it ispossible that it uses the locker cases but doesn't have the internal locker stuff. The pin on the side locks the diff when it's pulled out but not too far. Try turning the two output shafts to see if they are locked together in the pin out position and not when the pin is in. Sounds like It's neither a Renegade nor a Trooper. The gear ratio is too high so it probably came out of one of the machines with a larger engine to pull the higher gearing. Call Casey at JMC 480-545-1693. Tell him what you found ond see what he says.

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    Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:27 PM

    Ok I have identified what differential I have it is from a Renegade 1100. So if anyone is interested in this $600 takes it..
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    Posted 17 January 2012 - 06:55 PM

    Ok I have identified what differential I have it is from a Renegade 1100. So if anyone is interested in this $600 takes it..
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    I don't think they made a renegade 1100 they made a 800


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    Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:01 PM

    Would trade you a Trooper diff for the Renegade. More of a market for the Trooper diff.

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