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Hey guys..Haven't been on for a couple years.... Really interested in getting a Joyner Trooper.. When I was on here before you were having rearend and cable problems. I have read that they have upgraded the rear axles to CVs. I am looking to buy (possibly) in the spring and was wondering if the problems Have been addressed. The upgrade articles were EXCELLENTback then, but I just want something to buy and ride. Will be doing the 30 or 31" tire upgrade, but that is all I want to do. How is the reliabilty situation going now....

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Hey guys..Haven't been on for a couple years.... Really interested in getting a Joyner Trooper.. When I was on here before you were having rearend and cable problems. I have read that they have upgraded the rear axles to CVs. I am looking to buy (possibly) in the spring and was wondering if the problems Have been addressed. The upgrade articles were EXCELLENTback then, but I just want something to buy and ride. Will be doing the 30 or 31" tire upgrade, but that is all I want to do. How is the reliabilty situation going now....

SO.... Why no answers here????? THey either must be same ol, same ol, or did they get upgraded?????

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No one has ever joined that has one of the new ones so don't know! Sorry we can't help.

BUT, no one has had problems with the axles on the Trooper. The few that have had an issue with their CV-joint made adjustments or added shocks that went beyound the design angle of the CV-joint and that has only been a couple. The rest of us no problems. The only real problem was the setup from factory on the ring & pinion and that was cured with Lenny's diff upgrade.

Only cable problem was early on with the trans shifting cables but that again seem to only happen to a few. I have an extra set because I was concerned and now the cables have been sitting for 4 year now. Again it may have been the result of hard shifting by a few. I don't hard / speed shift and have never had a problem.

Best I can do!

rocmoc n AZ

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No one has ever joined that has one of the new ones so don't know! Sorry we can't help.

BUT, no one has had problems with the axles on the Trooper. The few that have had an issue with their CV-joint made adjustments or added shocks that went beyound the design angle of the CV-joint and that has only been a couple. The rest of us no problems. The only real problem was the setup from factory on the ring & pinion and that was cured with Lenny's diff upgrade.

Only cable problem was early on with the trans shifting cables but that again seem to only happen to a few. I have an extra set because I was concerned and now the cables have been sitting for 4 year now. Again it may have been the result of hard shifting by a few. I don't hard / speed shift and have never had a problem.

Best I can do!

rocmoc n AZ

No Poo Poo for me..Looks a Teryx in the spring.. DOn't want to do a diff job on a brand new ride after paying $$$$... Thanks guys for the reply . Will keep in touch with the forum and maybe one day when they get it right from the factory, I will get me a Trroper..

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Teryx is a good machine they have a big bore kit that makes it a beast

No Poo Poo for me..Looks a Teryx in the spring.. DOn't want to do a diff job on a brand new ride after paying $$$$... Thanks guys for the reply . Will keep in touch with the forum and maybe one day when they get it right from the factory, I will get me a Trroper..

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