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Hey guys looking for the SPIDER gear Shafts

Sorry I put wrong part descrition in here first time... .....Anyone have a used one? Also I would like to get 1 more shim kit if anyone has one they will part with...Need shaft SOON.....Mine broke in half and was eating the case up.So if anyone that reads this and has a knock in the rear stop riding and pull it!

724 420 7079 Dan

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Thanks for looking..... I have a machine shop that will make me one...They want 120.00 to make it... Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I only need the one WITHOUT the groove in the end....

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Well I bit the bullet and I am having a machine shop do it for me...120 to 150.00.. I can tell you it tested at Rockwell 51 If that helps anyone that cant test it but can make it...I can't tell but for some reason...Probably my ERROR when we took the carrier apart the S-3 Shim was ate up and inside with the spiders... I think it might have been the cause...I don't know Just GUESSING at it.. Theres no marks on the gears so who knows???? So I need a S-3 shim too LOL....Oh well I will make do with what I have....

P.S. Being LAID off Sucks!

Thanks Guys!

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Can anyone tell me what happened to my diff. I had it rebuilt with the up grades about two years ago. I was riding in a tight spot in 1st gear in two wheel drive crawling over a few logs about ten inches around when I heard a ping like sound and then found I had no rear wheel drive. I could see the in put shaft from the trans to the diff turning but no rear wheels. I was able to get out in front wheel drive. This is the third time I have had to limp it back with just the front wheels. Im starting to look at other UTV'S as this thing is always breaking down. I have about 5000 easy miles on my T2 as I use it for hunting and trail riding. Help.

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Muaythai

Did you put in stronger bolts from Lenny? What broke last time? It's still t2 gearing ratio?

I'm guessing spider gear or side gear shafts if its not making noises like it's driving on few broken teeth off pinion... mine broke few teeth at pinion and chipped the ring gear but spider was still good.

Is there oil coming out anywhere?

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Hey big Dan which pinion shaft was you talking about? The pinion itself that mates to ring gear or the stub shaft that goes inside carrier to mate with spider gears?

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The spider gear cross shaft...The one that is smooth except the cut out in the middle were they mate.. Thanks.....

I edited my first post description I used wrong part name...

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I had the diff go out about a year ago and found it hadn't been up graded like I was told so I had that done. I was told it wouldn't have any more issues 800.00 later. It is the T2 gearing, No oil running out any where and no gear noise at all.

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If your missing the conical spacer behind one of the spider gears that would put more stress on the shaft because then only one side takes all the load. The upgrade actually grinds into one of the shafts making it weaker but we haven't had any problems with that and I was running 122hp and now the new owner is running 131hp. If someone over ground the shaft then maybe it was weakened too much. With the spider gears spaced properly, the stock shaft won't go back in and that is what necessitated the grinding. One mistake in the design is that the groove in the shaft has sharp square corners which is a no no for anything under flexing stress. The square corner concentrates the stress at that point instead of spreading it over a larger area as it does when its radiused.

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I had the diff go out about a year ago and found it hadn't been up graded like I was told so I had that done. I was told it wouldn't have any more issues 800.00 later. It is the T2 gearing, No oil running out any where and no gear noise at all.

Did you buy the diff already "upgraded" from a store without shimming it? One store told me that they have "upgraded unit" i asked what was upgraded they said stronger bolts and locking tabs to hold the bolt head from turning out... exactly what i already had in my t2 when it blew up...i used lenny kit to take out the sloppy end play

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The shop here had to send the diff to AZ for the up grade so I don't know about the shims. I don't really know what shimming is. I was told by the shop in AZ when I got my up graded diff back it would be "bullet proof".

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Question. Does anyone know of we can have a new pinion made with say 2 less teeth and still make it match up? We could prob have a spacer made for behind the ring gear.

I would say yes but if I'm going to do it... i think i might would design one on computer 3dprogram and then make it into plastic with 3d printer to make sure it's all matched up then either use cnc to make one out of slab of metal or use the plastic one to make an mold and use mold to make pinon and clean the flash off (metal Sharp edges)

I doubt it would be cheap

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I don't know if i want 13 tooth pinion yet... trooper have 15 tooth and renegade is 14 tooth i feel 14 tooth really helped me a lot getting power back except for in 5th gear up steep hill at high speed i still lose speed. I think i just need more hp/torque for now to get that back up...but if you make machined much stronger metal pinion and ring gear i think I'll buy set but not sure yet...

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