Installing Turbo

[Merchant Mariner]

Called goindeep and he is hooking me up with a better exhaust manifold. The mounting location is killing me, with the new manifold I will be able to mount the turbo in the correct orientation to get the oil port pointed down. Then I can put it into the oil pan as suggested. Can not believe oil return has been this much of a pain!

Hope I can get this thing together and going in time for my trip! One step forward, THREE steps back.....

[dedub]

Called goindeep and he is hooking me up with a better exhaust manifold. The mounting location is killing me, with the new manifold I will be able to mount the turbo in the correct orientation to get the oil port pointed down. Then I can put it into the oil pan as suggested. Can not believe oil return has been this much of a pain!

Hope I can get this thing together and going in time for my trip! One step forward, THREE steps back.....

his maifold work good he done nice job on mine.

[goindeep]

thanks dedub! did you have any issues with the bolt holes?

[dedub]

thanks dedub! did you have any issues with the bolt holes?

no bolted right up no problem thanks.

[goindeep]

Right on! hope it is working good for you!

[goindeep]

hows the turbo install goin?

[Merchant Mariner]

HUGE HUGE PROPS TO JOSH @ NO LIMITZ (goindeep). In two days he made and shipped an exhaust manifold to me! Talk about putting a rush on it and helping a guy out in a bind, thanks a million.

Now with the new manifold I was able to locate the turbo where it needed to be, run the oil lines where they need to be, and eliminate a number of other problems I was trying to contend with. The manifold mounted up with no problems, bolt holes and all. Everything is hooked up with the exception of intercooler piping. Need a couple more hours tomorrow and it should be ready to go to the exhaust shop Monday morning for a quick downpipe fab and I will be rocking.......provided nothing else goes wrong.

[nocturnalsixer]

HUGE HUGE PROPS TO JOSH @ NO LIMITZ (goindeep). In two days he made and shipped an exhaust manifold to me! Talk about putting a rush on it and helping a guy out in a bind, thanks a million.

Now with the new manifold I was able to locate the turbo where it needed to be, run the oil lines where they need to be, and eliminate a number of other problems I was trying to contend with. The manifold mounted up with no problems, bolt holes and all. Everything is hooked up with the exception of intercooler piping. Need a couple more hours tomorrow and it should be ready to go to the exhaust shop Monday morning for a quick downpipe fab and I will be rocking.......provided nothing else goes wrong.

Yeah Josh do really do good job

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[goindeep]

thanks guys!!! that means a lot to me! if yall need anything at all i'm a phonecall away!

Josh

No Limitz

[Merchant Mariner]

It lives!!!..... Sort of. Test ran it today and turbo isn't spitting oil. It barely ran until I cut back the fuel with the EJK since I put the 19lb injectors in. Don't have all the inter cooler piping hooked up so the compressor wasn't pumping air in. Taking it to the exhaust shop tomorrow for a down pipe and a custom bend intercooler pipe to tie it all together

[goindeep]

Manifold help? Look good?

[Kinarfi]

I don't know how much heat from the manifold effects the oil pressure sender, but I moved mine, I would at least put some tape over it or over that end of the manifold. Or is that excessive? What is your opinion about it?

[goindeep]

Personally i run mechanical gauges and have absolutely no problems...

[Kinarfi]

Merchant Mariner, I was looking at your gallery and your snorkel has 2 wires coming off it, what are they for?

[Merchant Mariner]

Merchant Mariner, I was looking at your gallery and your snorkel has 2 wires coming off it, what are they for?

The two wires use to be for an electric motor driven "supercharger". It mounted in the boot below the air filter and had a switch that mounted by the pedal. When you opened throttle about 3/4 to full, it would turn the fan on. The gain was minimal at best. The AFR gauge barely registered a change when it kicked in. Besides that, it burnt up. Guess I was spending to much time at open throttle, haha. But I ditched all that now and recommend against monkeying around with it. Not worth it when it did work and didn't work all that long

[dedub]

The two wires use to be for an electric motor driven "supercharger". It mounted in the boot below the air filter and had a switch that mounted by the pedal. When you opened throttle about 3/4 to full, it would turn the fan on. The gain was minimal at best. The AFR gauge barely registered a change when it kicked in. Besides that, it burnt up. Guess I was spending to much time at open throttle, haha. But I ditched all that now and recommend against monkeying around with it. Not worth it when it did work and didn't work all that long

hows turbo working

[Merchant Mariner]

turbo is in and running. still needs tuning in. On stock injectors with the EJK tuned all the way up its too lean on full boost. Running the 19lb inj. I'm having a hard time with it running too rich. Getting fueling and boost to kick in at the same time is proving difficult. Even at idle with EJK cut all the way back the 19lb injectors are running 10.9 on the AFR gauge. So when I start giving it throttle I have to be real slow and feather it or it goes so rich I loose power and belch black smoke. When the turbo boost kicks in its like a rocket. Also need to get a different wastegate. Stock internal actuator has a lifting press around 13~15 psi. so I'm taking it easy now until I can get an adjustable actuator and get boost pressure down.

Still a work in progress, but at least there is progress now. Dedub, how is yours working out for you?

[Guest Lenny]

Have you tried backing off the fuel pressure. You should be able to go all the way back to 40# to 45#. If you get too low, it won't atomize properly. Scott with Unleashed Motorsports in Cottonwood, AZ did things different. He used the stock injectors with his turbos but instead would double up his fuel pumps in series so he could develope 130# - 140# or so to get enough fuel. Even though he made it work for him I couldn't get it to work for myself. I don't really like the approach as injectors shouldn't be used over about 75# or they become unreliable in their volume output. In his case, going up about 2-1/2 times stock pressures doesn't give 2-1/2 times the volume because as pressure rises, injector flow efficiency decreases.

Lenny

[Merchant Mariner]

Will try dropping the pressure, thanks for the suggestion. Not keen on doubling the fuel pumps and pressure. I know the injectors are not designed to run at those pressures and I fear that would shorten service life drastically. Just seems like asking for trouble.

Took the T2 out for some mountain thrashing the other day. It did alright, but fueling not being totally dialed in lead to a lot of stalling when rock crawling with it. Also developed an oil leak at the pan where I put the return oil fitting in. I have tried JB weld around the fitting and hi temp silicon. Still starts leaking when I start bouncing and jarring around.

[charlie]

Looking good man

[Guest Lenny]

The other thing about high pressure fuel is that the last thing you want is a fuel leak squirting out at 140 PSI. Did someone say explosion?

Lenny

[dedub]

YOUR OIL LEAK i put washer on that fit tight on brass fiting then oring on that with high temp silcone. let dry no problem no leak. as far my turbo working perfect 7 psi with stock injectors,

[nocturnalsixer]

turbo is in and running. still needs tuning in. On stock injectors with the EJK tuned all the way up its too lean on full boost. Running the 19lb inj. I'm having a hard time with it running too rich. Getting fueling and boost to kick in at the same time is proving difficult. Even at idle with EJK cut all the way back the 19lb injectors are running 10.9 on the AFR gauge. So when I start giving it throttle I have to be real slow and feather it or it goes so rich I loose power and belch black smoke. When the turbo boost kicks in its like a rocket. Also need to get a different wastegate. Stock internal actuator has a lifting press around 13~15 psi. so I'm taking it easy now until I can get an adjustable actuator and get boost pressure down.

Still a work in progress, but at least there is progress now. Dedub, how is yours working out for you?

I'm wondering what turbo are you using? The Wastegate on turbo is set to 13-15 psi?

I have been looking for a weather sealed boost controller set up.

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[dedub]

I'm wondering what turbo are you using? The Wastegate on turbo is set to 13-15 psi?

I have been looking for a weather sealed boost controller set up.

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i think to5 not shure the wastgate set 6 psi i was told it's off dodge colt.

[Merchant Mariner]

YOUR OIL LEAK i put washer on that fit tight on brass fiting then oring on that with high temp silcone. let dry no problem no leak. as far my turbo working perfect 7 psi with stock injectors,

I'm wondering what turbo are you using? The Wastegate on turbo is set to 13-15 psi?

I have been looking for a weather sealed boost controller set up.

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Thanks for the tip on the oil leak. I will give that a try, somethings gotta work. I'm about to weld a fitting in cause I'm tired of fighting with it.

I'm using a T15. It seems tiny, but so far I'm happy with it. All the performance maps and ratings on it indicated it was the right size for our little 1100cc engine. As for the boost controller, I am just using a needle valve. All you need is to be able to restrict the air flow going to the sensing side of the diaphragm in the wastegate actuator. A needle valve is a good metering valve. However, and you probably already know this, boost can only be raised above its lowest opening pressure with the use of a boost controller. For me to lower my boost I need an actuator with a weaker spring that opens lower. Then I can increase boost if needed from its lowest point, say a spring that opens at 6 psi and I use the controller to increase to 10 psi.

[ERV JR]

ARE YOU USING AN FMU ? or what are you using for fuel control , also do you still have the stock fuel pump ? I have considering building a turbo kit for mine .

[nocturnalsixer]

ARE YOU USING AN FMU ? or what are you using for fuel control , also do you still have the stock fuel pump ? I have considering building a turbo kit for mine .

EJK is an FMU add on module, I'm wanting one with vacuum port and a weather sealed boost controller then ill move forward with turbo after i finish my project silverado resurrection

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[Merchant Mariner]

EJK is an FMU add on module,

Ditto.

I think the vacuum ported controller is the best way to go. I can only get the fueling so close with the standard one. It is either too rich or lean until the boost or fueling catch up to one another. Have you found an FMU with the vacuum port?

As for doing the turbo kit, I did mine myself. For my 2 cents I would suggest a TRUE bolt on kit unless you are looking to do a lot of fabrication and modification yourself. Knowing what I know now, and with a lot of help from everyone on here, if I had it do over again I could probably do it cheaper, faster, and better than what I ended up with. A key component missing from any of the universal kits is the exhaust manifold. The best money you can spend while trying to put your kit together is to buy a manifold from Josh at No Limitz (aka - goindeep). If I had it to do over again I would probably get on the phone with him and see what he can do for you for a full bolt up kit specified to your needs . I ended up making own kit, bonus being I customized everything the way I wanted it. Downside is I spent almost as much as buy a kit specifically for the T2 and it took a lot of work to get all the right components and fabrication done.

[ERV JR]

The fab work is not a problem, I have my own shop where I retore and build hot rods and race cars. I also have a job as a union mechanic and have worked at honda,chevy,Mercedes Benz dealers as a tech.

I was actually thinking of just buying a turbo and not the kit, then either doing a log style exhaust or building a header

[dedub]

Ditto.

I think the vacuum ported controller is the best way to go. I can only get the fueling so close with the standard one. It is either too rich or lean until the boost or fueling catch up to one another. Have you found an FMU with the vacuum port?

As for doing the turbo kit, I did mine myself. For my 2 cents I would suggest a TRUE bolt on kit unless you are looking to do a lot of fabrication and modification yourself. Knowing what I know now, and with a lot of help from everyone on here, if I had it do over again I could probably do it cheaper, faster, and better than what I ended up with. A key component missing from any of the universal kits is the exhaust manifold. The best money you can spend while trying to put your kit together is to buy a manifold from Josh at No Limitz (aka - goindeep). If I had it to do over again I would probably get on the phone with him and see what he can do for you for a full bolt up kit specified to your needs . I ended up making own kit, bonus being I customized everything the way I wanted it. Downside is I spent almost as much as buy a kit specifically for the T2 and it took a lot of work to get all the right components and fabrication done.

DIDN'T you get the fuelcontroler from gonedeep with vacumn port?///