charlie 7 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 I'm hoping somone can help answer this for me. We have all seen the large lift kits on rzr wildcat rhino. We all know there is no lift for the trooper as of yet. I run 30" on mine why go bigger right? Here's the thing what makes our axles so different or why can't they be adapted to handle a lift like all the other side by sides. I know larger tires on our machines may require more power but that's not what I am thinking I'm just thinking more ground clearance and more wheel travel and it seems that the number one concern is the axles so what makes all the others different and why can't we??? I have spoken to two companies about a lift one possibly a portal box style and the other a possible bolt on 2-3" lift both companies were concerned about axle degrees. Any insight would help at this point it's a day dream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 Nope need longer a arms on front and rear would need to be wider.. it's all about those cv's. Angle them too much and they blow apart..looked at it already.. Hey you find that front end noise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie 7 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 Ya figured the wider stance in rear and front with the arms but with that being said if the axle shafts were longer wouldn't that help how do the axle cv work on all these other machines???? It's gotta be close to the same and I look at my brothers rzr 570 and the trooper shafts are defiantly thicker?? The noise is defiantly in the diff I narrowed that down checked everything in the front the one day I had to work on it I couldn't get the d/s cv off the diff then it started to poor rain and with end of summer and my kids hockey schedule I havnt got back into it yet sux ass lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 If the a arms where longer it would change the angle at both ends of axle towards the negative side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 It has alot to do with the cv design also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 I was into rock crawling with My Toyota and researched drive shafts. If we could apply there tech it would work out nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 http://www.highangledriveline.com/42cv.html Do it with something like this.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 Prob end up needing slip joints too... lol mo money. I would use Toyota drive shaft with a Carden joint slip joint. Weld Carden to our bell at rear or at wheel utilize the slip joint and Bam.... Done.. longer shocks and your set.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 I'd rather spend money on a transfer case or a 2nd lower gear Or 1st gear lower or both... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie 7 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 There's never an easy idea I was just playing with thoughts in my head and I have been thinking all morning u think it's possible that noise could be a beating I did replace both bearing and all balljoints and I don't remember this noise when I started doesn't mean it's not poor timing. I'm gonna borrow a set of chassis ears tomorrow and put them on the front and see what happens. Man I miss wheeling havnt been in so long now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie 7 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 Why couldn't we have axles made with those joints u sent the link to lol. I guess the sky's the limit but u also have to accept what u have make it the best with in reason or move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan120 8 Report post Posted August 21, 2015 I'm sure we could. But they would be pricy I'm sure.... Rip the rear apart.. your just wishing and hoping it's not it when you know it is.... lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hfrick 2 Report post Posted August 24, 2015 Charlie...what about lowering your diffs in the frame to cut down the angle ...the shaft still only has a certain amount of angle,but you should be able to lift it a couple of inches and still keep axles in thier safe zone..(so far Ive only relocated my rear diff ) primarily to allow for the additional travel with my fox air shocks...Hardy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie 7 Report post Posted August 25, 2015 I was playing around with ideas lol I guess that would be possible lowering the diff but my fab skills are not so great. I got to get the front diff open first and find why I have a knocking sound heard most when turning left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverbullet 31 Report post Posted September 28, 2015 silverbullet Charlie your part is ready.Please give me your email.So i can ship out.. Thanks Rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverbullet 31 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Hello Charlie Charlie I need to get this done.I have the up grade and back lash done.You told me to get it done so i pulled it apart and set to specs.Please Get in touch with me or Matt.928 344 2117 Thank You Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinarfi 53 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 I was playing around with ideas lol I guess that would be possible lowering the diff but my fab skills are not so great. I got to get the front diff open first and find why I have a knocking sound heard most when turning left Did you get this figured out, could it be CV starting to bind up noise because you're turning to sharp to the left? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverbullet 31 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 Hi Charlie 928 344 2117 [email protected] I'm hoping somone can help answer this for me. We have all seen the large lift kits on rzr wildcat rhino. We all know there is no lift for the trooper as of yet. I run 30" on mine why go bigger right? Here's the thing what makes our axles so different or why can't they be adapted to handle a lift like all the other side by sides. I know larger tires on our machines may require more power but that's not what I am thinking I'm just thinking more ground clearance and more wheel travel and it seems that the number one concern is the axles so what makes all the others different and why can't we??? I have spoken to two companies about a lift one possibly a portal box style and the other a possible bolt on 2-3" lift both companies were concerned about axle degrees. Any insight would help at this point it's a day dream Hi Charlie Please give me a call.Need you to call 928 344 2117 Thanks Rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverbullet 31 Report post Posted October 24, 2016 silverbullet10 We have been installing the new up grade for Trooper and Renegade.We have found some things to help to last much longer.Lenny had did most of the R&D we just found a few things like 12.9 allen head bolts.And we do this to all the rear differentials.Price of a stock unit with the upgrade.750.00 Takes about 10 days. Rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
