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The new STI V-Roll is 14" and is the HOT NEW Paddle for large displacement UTV's.....but 185.00 each is high....

I am currently waiting on a reply from Dave at Fullerton Sand Sports, I saw him at the Sand Show and he states that he has a 12" rim that fits on the Trooper....???? I will post more when I know more...

I would recommend a Set of Paddles for the Rear....Turn your front tires around....4x4 engaged....Rear Locked...Front Unlocked

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185 doesn't sound too bad if it's quality tire. My highlifter outlaw 2 was about $190-210 each cost depending on width.

Buggiedude

Did you meant turn the stock far east around backwards on front? (such as swapping front right for left and left for right side)

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Yes I do mean that....it works for the Rears as well....but Paddles make a huge difference due to the weight back there....But it also depends on much performance you are looking for....

Keep in mind, we have only tested this in a "will it move around the dunes?" aspect....lol

Turbo takes out all doubt though.....

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The 12" wheels will fit on the early Troopers but not on the others. The early ones had smaller brake calipers. The bigger calipers hit but you can grind them back to make them work. As far as paddles go, I would go with a 30-31" x 12" wide. This will give good floation and not kill your power. To go good on the dunes, you really need the turbo. I have some 33 x 16 on 15" rims that will bolt right up I'll sell the pair on rims for $300 plus shipping, but a stock machine won't pull them. The rims are nice super light ones. I run 33 x 13 on 15s on mine. I used to run the big ones on the back and the 13" wide ones on the front. It did real good but I decided it was a bit too much tire and it would pull my rpms down on bigger climbs. I don't run rhe dunes much and figure the 13 will serve me fine.

Lenny

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The 12" wheels will fit on the early Troopers but not on the others. The early ones had smaller brake calipers. The bigger calipers hit but you can grind them back to make them work. As far as paddles go, I would go with a 30-31" x 12" wide. This will give good floation and not kill your power. To go good on the dunes, you really need the turbo. I have some 33 x 16 on 15" rims that will bolt right up I'll sell the pair on rims for $300 plus shipping, but a stock machine won't pull them. The rims are nice super light ones. I run 33 x 13 on 15s on mine. I used to run the big ones on the back and the 13" wide ones on the front. It did real good but I decided it was a bit too much tire and it would pull my rpms down on bigger climbs. I don't run rhe dunes much and figure the 12 will serve me fine.

Lenny

What brand are the tires? I am a little worried about going too aggressive and overloading the engine.

When you say 12" wheels fit "early" troopers, how early we talking? 09'?

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The first paddle tires I had were 27" on 12" rims. Had 4 of them but it didn't really have enough floation but they didn't do bad. Much better then stock tires. Paddle tires are 'Sand Tires Unlimited'. Paddles are pretty much same depth as new, about 1". There are 18 of them. Tires hold air great. Haven't put air in them in about 2 years and they are still firm. I had no trouble pulling them with my supercharged engine. When my engine was stock I could barely get going.

Lenny

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What brand are the tires? I am a little worried about going too aggressive and overloading the engine.

When you say 12" wheels fit "early" troopers, how early we talking? 09'?

I believe first batch of trooper early like rocmoc had.....08 i believe 150 of Trooper was called early ones

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Noc, you are correct, that was one of the 08/09 mid year changes....8" discs OLD to 10" discs NEW/CURRENT...remember the first Troopers would NOT stop...lol

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Noc, you are correct, that was one of the 08/09 mid year changes....8" discs OLD to 10" discs NEW/CURRENT...remember the first Troopers would NOT stop...lol

Mine is a 09 only thing i could check for is the brake rotors diameter being 8" or 10"? also there's no cv on end of one rear driveshaft if i remember correctly....

Is there any other more telltale signs to look for?

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The first paddle tires I had were 27" on 12" rims. Had 4 of them but it didn't really have enough floation but they didn't do bad. Much better then stock tires. Paddle tires are 'Sand Tires Unlimited'. Paddles are pretty much same depth as new, about 1". There are 18 of them. Tires hold air great. Haven't put air in them in about 2 years and they are still firm. I had no trouble pulling them with my supercharged engine. When my engine was stock I could barely get going.

Lenny

what were you running up front when you were running the 33x16 paddles in back?

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The new STI V-Roll is 14" and is the HOT NEW Paddle for large displacement UTV's.....but 185.00 each is high....

I am currently waiting on a reply from Dave at Fullerton Sand Sports, I saw him at the Sand Show and he states that he has a 12" rim that fits on the Trooper....???? I will post more when I know more...

I would recommend a Set of Paddles for the Rear....Turn your front tires around....4x4 engaged....Rear Locked...Front Unlocked

Going back over all the info everyone has shared, I keep coming back to this. Just can't get my head around why/what turning the front tires around does for us? I believe you that it works,just can't figure out how?

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The stock tire setup on the Trooper has the lugs facing towards the outside, like a farm tractor. The idea is to push the loose dirt to the sides in order to get down to the firmer stuff for traction. Propulsion on the sand comes largely from the weight of the sand that gets thrown rearward. An equal and opposit force thing. Thus, the tires want paddles or the lugs turned to scoop up the sand and throw it to the rear. The faster you spin the tires, the more sand weight you throw rearward and the faster you go or the better you climb. If you have so much tire so that you can't get the engine reved up becaues it just does'n have enough hp, you stay bogged down or in lower gears. Too small a tire, and even if you can spin them, you don't throw enough sand rearward and you will also dig in. Like BuggieDude said but in different words, it's a balance between flotation and available power.

Lenny

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Mine is a 09 only thing i could check for is the brake rotors diameter being 8" or 10"? also there's no cv on end of one rear driveshaft if i remember correctly....

Is there any other more telltale signs to look for?

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The first 50 as they were called. Steel diamond plate deck / skid plate that is weld to the tube frame. Even under the motor. Steel diamond plate deck weld in the cargo rack / roll bar over the engine. Rear driveline with u-joints, no CV joints. The smaller rotors. Gas tank mounted in the front under the hood near the steering. No dust covers on the steering rack. Storage area under the passenger seat. The biggies easy to notice would be the gas tank & weld skid plate.

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