Travis

i've ran 89 octane in my mule forever, never noticed any performance issues, or difference when i tried premium/higher octane.

Think i could pour some pepto bismol in the crankcase?

I'm doubting it's internal in the starter, as it's done it with 3 starters (one old one that had been on for 5 years, a chinese knock off, then the Arrowhead starter i recently got), guess next i'll replace the connector at the starter solenoid, and then try the relay. I doubt it's a bad cell in the battery, as i would think that would appear during cranking also, and when it cranks, it cranks it over fast. no drag or anything.

i'm thinking about trying this one, pins appear to be in the correct order, almost looks like an exact copy of the Denso relay on it now. and if it doesn't work, it's only $9 bucks. https://www.amazon.com/Car-Motor-12V-SPST-Relay/dp/B0177ANEQ2/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=4+pin+relay+spst&qid=1615345807&sr=8-3

i was just doing some reading online, about starter relays and came across this article saying "The problem with a failed starter relay is that sometimes it works brilliantly and in other cases it does not work at all. If you start your car once and it starts without a fault, then try start it again and it won’t start at all, then you are more than likely dealing with a faulty starter relay."

ah, i see what you were getting at now, it does appear the female connectors can be removed/change places with on the wiring harness if i need to. Thanks

Guess i don't quite understand what you mean.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/wLXJ1KC Here's the relay. The two on the right appear to be #2 and #4. it does look a little dirty in there where the plugs are, but believe me i've already tried cleaning them

Main thing to consider is if you were to find a machine that fits your needs (electric/gas powered) i would not buy it unless it is from a reputable brand, and WHEN it breaks down, you know you can find the parts to fix it. and to be honest, the more electricity there is on the machine, the more problems can occur. Maybe i'm just old fashioned, but that's the way i see it, i'll take mechanical over electric any day of the week.

Alright, i'll get some pics of the relay. Did some work on our driveway today, about 10 starts with no problems at all.

starter was hitting again this morning, 3 times before it would engage, i'm also thinking of replacing the circuit relay, kawasaki wants $43, used around $30.... Just wondering if i could go to O'rielly or someplace and just get a 4 pin relay?

George Carlin said," Realize 50% of the people in this country are stupid, then realize half of them are stupider than that"

I'll send an Uber for ya

GORILLA TAPE IS PLENTY GOOD!!!

Well, i blame T-BOSS for it acting up today since he didn't show up with the duct tape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN'T GET GOOD HELP ANYMORE!!!

Howdy!

nahhh ahh ahhh,,, it took 20 years for this to act up, not 20 minutes....

starter acted up again today some. Hmmmmmm gremlins, sure makes me think it's electrical as when it does, it does it for several start cycles.

do you mean where it should plug into the regulator, or where it goes FROM the regulator? the white wire makes the circuit from the regulator, to the key switch, and it also supplies power to the electrical accessory connectors.

Thinking of putting one on the mule on the dash, just so i can have a constant check on voltage. I know just enough about electricity wiring to be dangerous, I'm assuming when i install it i can just run a + and - wire to it straight from the battery, correct? Anyone have a meter they recommend? any advice is appreciated.

LOL!

8 starts today and not a problem at all.

about 4 rolls of Gorilla tape, bring some glue in case we need to fix our hair too, LOL!

might want to look into the Polaris RZR series, they have engine braking. However, they're more sporty than work.

Great! Thanks cliffy