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Tylers been busy selling Popcorn since October for Cub Scouts so we have been having the other grandkids (3,4 and 6 months) Friday afternoon through Sunday afternoon. Only three more weeks and we can come out and play! I'ld really like to go out to Gold Butte before Christmas for a day or two.

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I was kind of wondering where everyone has been too. I've been working on fall yard work to get ready for our short colder weather but that's done now. Also been working on fine tuning my suspension. The more I play with it the better it gets. Starting to better understand some of the fine points like when I need a little more or less dampening rather then more or less spring rate. I use a video camera to film going through various rough stuff. This gives me a good idea of just how the wheels are responding to not only the bump but the rebound rate. If I feel something, I film and then see if I can see it. Getting close. Electric steering is getting close. Kinarfi is just finishing up some details. I'm excited about just how powerful yet gentle it appears it is going to be especially with kinarfi's Smart Controller. Starting to look at the planitary gear setup again. Have decided to put them mid axel. Much easier and think I can get them in the room available. Will probably use electric selonids to activate them so will be able to switch back and forth.

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Lenny, watch some off-road racing. Soft springs with damping seems to be the trick!

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

That's exactly what I'm finding out. Needless to say, I've gone through a few springs in my learning curve but I prefer it that way then to have someone just do it for me. You don't learn anything about climbing when you have someone set you on top with a helicopter. Part of my implication is that when I go exploring into no mans land, I load quite heavy, spare tire, extra 10 gal gas, 5 gal water, survival gear, extra food, tent and my two now 85# dogs. I'm forced to keep the springs a little stiffer as a result but still want a good controlling suspension when I'm riding alone and hot rodding a trail. I think I have got it to where I can just crank the springs down a bit when loaded and still have a nice soft ride that can also take some big hits without bottoming. When riding alone, I back them off and even though a bit stiffer, still fine and then I can take really big hits. The main thing I want when i'm hot rodding is to have the wheels on the ground as much as possible and not lean too much in the turns. Correct rebound dammpening is vital for keeping the wheels on the ground. Two sets of shocks would be nice, but $.

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I was kind of wondering where everyone has been too. I've been working on fall yard work to get ready for our short colder weather but that's done now. Also been working on fine tuning my suspension. The more I play with it the better it gets. Starting to better understand some of the fine points like when I need a little more or less dampening rather then more or less spring rate. I use a video camera to film going through various rough stuff. This gives me a good idea of just how the wheels are responding to not only the bump but the rebound rate. If I feel something, I film and then see if I can see it. Getting close. Electric steering is getting close. Kinarfi is just finishing up some details. I'm excited about just how powerful yet gentle it appears it is going to be especially with kinarfi's Smart Controller. Starting to look at the planitary gear setup again. Have decided to put them mid axel. Much easier and think I can get them in the room available. Will probably use electric selonids to activate them so will be able to switch back and forth.

Lenny

Quit holding out on us. Lets see some of that video.

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Well I am still here. Lost my mom on Oct. 13 and have not been doing alot. I should have been making the most out of the unseasonably warm weather and lack of snow. I still need to put the shim and bolt kits in the diffs which I have had for several months but our house is for sale and I hate to start a project now.

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Well I am still here. Lost my mom on Oct. 13 and have not been doing alot. I should have been making the most out of the unseasonably warm weather and lack of snow. I still need to put the shim and bolt kits in the diffs which I have had for several months but our house is for sale and I hate to start a project now.

Sorry to hear of the loss of your mother. Hang in there, time will loosen up, it always does. I know I need to put some vdeo on for you guys to see. Actually, I'm behind on my pics of my supercharger installation, underhood trunk, rollbar additions and new fenders. I'll try to get caught up. Glad to see everybody is starting to come out of the silent period.

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Sorry to hear of the loss of your mother. Hang in there, time will loosen up, it always does. I know I need to put some vdeo on for you guys to see. Actually, I'm behind on my pics of my supercharger installation, underhood trunk, rollbar additions and new fenders. I'll try to get caught up. Glad to see everybody is starting to come out of the silent period.

Lenny

Chin up mate (kiwi for Hang in there, time will loosen up, it always does) it slowly gets better. Time is a great healer.

Cheers Mike.

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Well, here is a couple of pics of the new fenders and rollbar treatment. I decided not to go with fiberglass. To get them out far enough to protect me from sand blasting myself when I run my 33" paddle tires, was going to put them in harms way. Fiberglass doesn' like getting hit. Once it cracks there is nothing you can do to fix it other the cutting out the entire damage area and rebuilding that section. I first started with cardboard to mockup some ideas. Disconnected a shock both front and rear so I could move the suspension all the way up at full bump. I did this with my 33" paddle tires on. I needed both turning clearance for the fronts and also over top clearance for all 4 tires. My paddle tires at full bump are about 3" above the top of the hood at its outter level. By the time I gave the top of the tire an extra 1-1/2" of clearance, this thing looked like a big boxie army truck. It was awful. I didn't see any graceful way to go up over the tops of the tires. Then I thought of the approach I ended up with. The more I looked at my cardboard mockup, the more I liked it. I like a vehicle to show exposed big tires sort of like a monster truck, all tires to me makes it look like it can go anywhere. The fenders keep everything off except maybe if I ran in the rain and the water would get thrown out and up in front just to come back and get me. Hey I'm in Southern Utah, not much rain here and I don't generally ride when its raining anyway. The underside of the fenders is made from full hard aircraft 7000 series aluminum 1/16 inch thick. It's like spring steel. It screws onto out reaching arms welded to the frame. You can roll it up into a 12" diameter circle and it just comes back straight. Tough stuff and it can take a hit. Over the top of that I used 1/8" thick industrial conveyor belting. There is someone on Ebay who has two huge rolls of it their selling. Put the black side down and redish orange side is painted camo. It overhangs the aluminum about 1-1/2" and provides a good flexible fender edge. Their light and easy to repair and can take a lot of tree and bush scraping and a pretty good hit. I removed the spare tire rack from up high and put the spare on the back for now. It is going to change to a side location later. There is just enough room ahead of the rear fender. Got rid of all the high weight and reinforced the roll bars by doubling up the verticles and top horizontals. I padded them because I kept hittting my head on them getting in and out. Gives it a completely different look. Still want to build doors that are an extension of the roll cage. With all the rock around here I'm always concered about rolling and just happening to go over a 2' diameter rock that reaches in throgh the side and gets me or Jeanne. My new doors with th spare tire connected to them will make it feel like a tank from the inside. I will be putting a spare tire on each side.

Whew, I'm out of breath now.

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Wow Lenny man wow. You sure have been busy. Yep, I like what you have done. Not every one could achieve what you have with your Trooper and you have certainly put your mark on it. Funny thing is that I have put a lot of thought into spare wheel replacement and fenders too but came up with a total different solution. My idea with the spare wheel was to connect a bracket to the bonnet (hood) as far forward as possible for vision and forward weight reasons but your idea trumps that. With the fenders I'm going to be a little bit critical for the first time with you. My concerns are, at a certain speed on the stock Trooper in the mud or on a loose metal Rd the tires will fling debris up and forward at such a rate that you drive straight into them. With your design, I feel that that certain speed will increase from say a 30km/h to 35km/h to something like 20km/h to 60km/h. I'm not sure how sand will behave but feel it will be the same. For example, a couple of weeks ago that very thing happened to me and I ended up with a mud pie in my face.My idea with the mudguards (fenders) was to use a Joyner part as in the Spanish and English Joyner Sand Spider as in this youtube video http://www.lifestyleutvs.com/apps/videos/v...oyner-650-buggy . Your front and back guards look the part but I fear the rear guards will do the required job where as the front guards will be found wanting. I hope I'm wrong so please keep us updated on how the perform.

Cheers Mike.

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Wow Lenny man wow. You sure have been busy. Yep, I like what you have done. Not every one could achieve what you have with your Trooper and you have certainly put your mark on it. Funny thing is that I have put a lot of thought into spare wheel replacement and fenders too but came up with a total different solution. My idea with the spare wheel was to connect a bracket to the bonnet (hood) as far forward as possible for vision and forward weight reasons but your idea trumps that. With the fenders I'm going to be a little bit critical for the first time with you. My concerns are, at a certain speed on the stock Trooper in the mud or on a loose metal Rd the tires will fling debris up and forward at such a rate that you drive straight into them. With your design, I feel that that certain speed will increase from say a 30km/h to 35km/h to something like 20km/h to 60km/h. I'm not sure how sand will behave but feel it will be the same. For example, a couple of weeks ago that very thing happened to me and I ended up with a mud pie in my face.My idea with the mudguards (fenders) was to use a Joyner part as in the Spanish and English Joyner Sand Spider as in this youtube video http://www.lifestyleutvs.com/apps/videos/v...oyner-650-buggy . Your front and back guards look the part but I fear the rear guards will do the required job where as the front guards will be found wanting. I hope I'm wrong so please keep us updated on how the perform.

Cheers Mike.

So far I haven't found this except for a little bit of blowback very occasionally kinda of like a light quick gust of sand. It's not much and the paddle tires are the same. It's so little that I don't consider it a problem however if I was running in the southeast or other areas where wet ground is quite common, I totally agree with you. If I hit a mud puddle at speed, I will probably take a shot. My tires are 31x10.5-15 and when I place them to be no lower then the rocker panel and sort of touching the rear fender it sticks above the arm rail next to the seat. It comes across about shoulder height and rolls down to vertical about 3" ahead of the forward part of the arm rail. With a tire set on blocks in place I got in the Trooper to see if it felt restrictive or overbearing. It didn't at all, instead it gave me a feeling of invinceability. Otherwise if I roll, the arm rail is so close to my side that anything on the ground is going to get me. A few years back while mountain biking in the smokey mountains and about 2 hours in, my partner, while going over a wet 6" dia log, slipped and fell on his side. He got speared by a stob sticking up that punctured his chest cavity and broke off in side. Fortunately it didn't puncture his lungs. We barely made it out before dark and $40,000 later he was OK. My side doors will be really an extension of my roll bar cage. They will probably swing open from the front from very structurally strong hinges and latch to the rear verticle bar kind of like the rear doors on a semi trailer, again structurally sound. The doors will be L shaped, high to protect the head and shoulders and then roll down to just above the thighs. I will still be able to get in or out through what is left open. At nearly 65 ( in March ) years old, I'm not willing to risk my next 35 years because someone thinks it's a little over kill. Gosh, this is by far the best time of my life.

Lenny

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