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Thanks Rick & Roc. Rick, what’s this, a moderator now! Congrats mate and you are in good company. Yeah, it’s a bit strange as I have got out of the habit of going on the Joyner sites and UTV forum sites and are totally not up with the play anymore. I use to read every post on here religiously. I’ve been busy looking at other opportunities and have even shot up into the South Pacific looking at the Cook Island Rental Car Industry. Rarotonga is a beautiful Island and a great place for a holiday. I went 4WD whilst there, talk about a blast as it was too much fun. I’m toying with an idea of importing another brand of UTV which is more like a Mini Jeep and it has the same Chery engine as a Joyner Renegade. In the States I think they call them a Sand Reeper, but out here I’ll rename them a SIKA RS. I’m also helping a Finnish car designer promote a new Roadster called a Norster 600R that was designed with the Rental Car Industry in mind where there are holiday hotspots, thus the trip to Rarotonga. Funny enough the Norster also has a Chery engine. Apart from that I’m working part time and still selling UTV Enclosures along with Lenny’s wife Jeanne. Jeanne is one very capable & professional lady and I’m very lucky to have her as a business partner, but for those of you that have meet her, you already know that. Cheers Mike

G’day Dale and all my old mates that I haven’t spoke to in ages. Dale, nice photos of the new model Trooper. The amount of time and thought that has gone into the Trooper and Renegade upgrades by a few is massive. Some changers like the spare wheel mount, headlight and indicator relocations can be accredited to guys right here on UTV Boards and No Limits, but the hidden bugs and design faults that have been ironed out were mainly one mans work and a good job he has done. I know I’ve parted ways with Joyner, but I’ve still got the passion for the brand and hope that the Joyner manufactures make the RIGHT decisions for the future. I mean, just look at this 2011 Trooper, it’s a winner through and through. Cheers Mike.

Well once you see the photo you know there wont be a comeback. These were used on farms in NZ around the 50s right through to the early 70s but unsure if they would of been overly helpful or not. They were fun to drive apparently. Here is a link http://www.thecarmuseum.co.nz/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=84&g2_itemId=2424 Mike

Not sure if anybody realised I changed my UTV Brand in my profile box left to Gnat. Just in case you think that is a mosquito like insect, it’s not. I think that it may very well be the first UTV and was made right here in New Zealand. It was built in the 50s before Quads and Farm bikes were around and because of it’s seating configuration and a reverse gear, it is a UTV not a ATV. John Deere were probably before this in some shape or form. Do you think it could make a comeback? Mike

Stev, I can only speak for myself, not for Joyner USA or Garth. I got sent the wrong parts again by the manufactures and they would not do the right thing by it. I told them I won't pay for their mistakes any more. They have cost me over the years and told them that I would have nothing more to do with them. Joyner in the States and Canada will continue through No Limits and Mudslingers. The parts are in stock now. The new 2011 Trooper will be night and day compared to the old model as will the Renegade. I can say that parts WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM. Support the guys that are still part of the Joyner family. From what I can tell so far, that’s No Limits, Silverbullet, Mudslingers and guys like Tim from Thin Air Powersports. Tim is a member on UTV Boards (Anylizer) and for the last two years, he’s worked behind closed doors securing Joyner parts for his customers. Look after these guys, because they have worked hard for you, the Joyner owners. I believe No Limits and Mudslingers will be the distributors and will supply Joyner dealers with vehicles and parts, plus sell direct to the public. Thanks Mike.

I’m not going into it, other to say that the problem is not the USA Distributors. No blame can be pointed at them period. Joyner USA is closing. http://buggynews.com/joyner-usa-t27744-60.html Garth Livermore said in this post that he won't go into detail publicly & he doesn’t want to come off as a "sour grapes" kind of guy. Well I don’t hold those qualities and like nothing more than getting my own back. I not going to now, but maybe sometime in the future. What I will say is, Ken Morris, Garth Livermore and Joyner USA can hold their heads up high, they haven’t failed you, the Joyner manufactures have. Mike.

I saw the video a while back and they look pretty good to me. I still like the Joyner concept of a car engine over a Motorcycle engine, but you can just tell this Cat is going to be a top predator. I know an Arctic Cat dealer you can trust, Arctic Cat of DFW. Their new website is http://dfwarcticcat.com/ & this is a division of some business you might of heard about before called No Limits Powersports. Cheers Mike.

Rick I have advised my customers to try Joyner Australia, only because he is the closest, but I never hear anything from him after I have sent emails. I’ve even supplied one of his customers with parts because he can’t be bothered. I really need to make sure my ex-customers are looked after as there is no way I will leave them in the lurch and will go all out to source parts for them. Thanks for your offer and will mention your name as enquiries come in. I am working on something concerning Joyner parts, so we will see how this works out. I really feel bad for my customers and to be honest, that's probably the main reason I’ve kept going for the last six months. Cheers Mike.

Thank you all for your kind words. It really was a painful decision but I really had no choice. I still love the Joyner brand and that’s one good reason to move on now and keep those memories. One of the other reasons that I have come to this decision is the continuation of the earthquakes that are slowly killing our economy. Another two big ones this week feel on the same day and another 150 commercial buildings destroyed. We are witnessing the death of Christchurch and we as a nation can afford it. All that been said, that’s not the main reason I have called it quits, not even close. It would be impossible not to continue popping into UTV Boards every day for a look and don’t worry, I’m not going to disappear from here. After all, I have to keep up my contacts to get spare parts for my Trooper. Oh the irony in that. Cheers Mike.

This afternoon (NZ time) I have decided to stop importing Joyner in New Zealand. This especially includes any spare parts and for that I feel bad for my customers over here that need them. The decision has not come lightly, but it’s one I’m forced to make. I wish the guys at Joyner USA Inc. all the best as I do all the Joyner dealers that gone through so much pain in the 18 months or so. These are good Joyner people and hope you Joyner owners will carry on supporting them. I admire them for staying loyal and hope the brand takes off again. A lot of hard work has gone into the new Joyner models, in particularly by Ken Morris. I just hope the manufactures don’t stuff it up . I too am very loyal to the brand, but can no longer entertain the thought doing any business with the Joyner manufactures for reasons I’ll keep to myself, for now. Take care you guys & gals and for those going to the Jamboree have a bloody good time and stay safe. Ka kite anō Mike.

Here they come http://www.joyner-usa.com/ .

It’s the same bolt pattern as Artic Cat which is 4 X 115. ITP has rims and wheels that will fit plus check out this thread http://www.utvboard.com/topic/392-parts-pieces-and-information-for-our-troopers-joyners/ ITP’s site is http://www.itptires.com/utilityatv/ss212.html Cheers Mike

Welcome dynamic1, that’s unbelievable commitment and sacrifice that you have made. Thanks for helping make this world a better place. Steve, the very first upgrade on your list should be a muffler. Even with a high powered rifle, the Trooper is just too noisy and will push game away. It will go from sounding like a Rally car to your Grandmas car with a good muffler. Cheers Mike.

I like the sound of it. It kind of reminds me of a Commando four seater build No Limits did 3 or 4 years ago, but this time with teeth. If I went to a six, I would look a a Lexus or Toyota 2JZ-GE 3L. It’s light, powerfully and has many upgrades in it’s standard form. It’s the same engine the Supra RZ used so easy to add the stock twin turbocharges and in sequential configuration the output goes from 169kW( 227hp) up to 206kW (267hp) at 5600 rpm. That would be nice in mud holes. The tranny is a 5 speed auto with Tiptronic, the best of both worlds and the block looks like it would fit into the Troopers frame. It’s more square than long. If your will to fabricate a new rear, then a longer Jeep engine might be the way to go. Pushing the rear seats up is going to give you more room and the rear passengers better forward viewing, kind of like a RZR-4. Your going you have many issues to troubleshoot and I know there will be plenty of people here following your progress and adding their thoughts. I can wait to see this beast. Cheers Mike.

I love MOAB and I’ve never been there. roc 2.00 minutes in where the RZR rolled backwards is exactly the reason manual surly must be better than auto for driving on rocks. The only ground I’ve driven on is mud and marbles(metal roads) in anything 4X4 so you should now, but surely you must have more control with a clutch & accelerator than just an accelerator. Nice video.

It is happening, Garth would be the best one to answer this question. Not long to wait now as far as I know. The website is delayed but that too should be all go soon. Cheers Mike.

cahill valley, I had a quick look and from that I can normally tell if they are legitimate or get alarm bells ringing. I got alarm bells my friend. You just made a the right call. That’s not to say that they are a suitcase company, but further investigation would be needed first. I only looked at this for five minutes and found two alarm bells that stops me from looking any further. Firstly, a lot of suitcase companies use similar name of a successful Chinese enterprise. I Googled Jingyu Trading Company Ltd and two similar names that are legitimate companies showed up, Shanghai Jingyu International Trading Co, LTD and Guangdong Jingyu Trading Co, LTD. They are trying to guide you into believing that there may be a link with one of these other Jingyu Trading Companies. One manufactures chemicals & the other makes clothing. Nothing to do with Powersports. Secondly, I found your Husqvarna that you were looking at on the China Suppliers website, then I looked in the ‘Company Info Box’ where they boldly state annual turnover 50 to 100 Million USD$. Not bad, but have a look in the member since, it says 2011. Now this only means that the have been a member of “China Supplies” website since 2011, however a company with such a massive turnover would have their own website and yes, a business email. I could not find a stand alone website for this massive company, that’s a big bell right there. The way I see it, you just saved $6800 so don’t feel bad about not grabbing a bargain. When you get the Husqvarna, take some photos and post them on here. We would love to here all about it. Cheers Mike

Todd, my PM limit may have been full. I've deleted some PM's so should work next time. Cheers Mike.

OK that’s good and the odds are in your favour now. If this company is authentic you will save on the deal. Next step is to look at the Husqvarna 4421 model and try and find out what goes wrong with them. I know you said there is a 1 year warranty, but how hard will this be for you to enforce this from another country. International warranty's are legitimate, but you don’t wont to rely on it so see if this Husqvarna model has a good name first. There will be other hidden costs like storage before you arrange a pick up, bank fees to wire your money and if you live inland away from the port of arrival shipping can be expensive. I live in another country but once shipped a car from Chicago to the port of L.A and it was very expensive. Parts and servicing will not be a problem for you. If you like you can post or PM me the details of the trading company and I’ll give you my thoughts on them, I’m pretty good at finding out about Chinese companies. Cheers Mike.

Please don’t go through any website like this at all without researching the company involved first. There are more suitcase companies than ever on sites like China Direct. A suitcase company is basically nothing but photos on the internet. If it sounds to good to be true, be very careful. There are good deals to be found and Parallel Importing as it is known & can be a great way to secure a bargain. Add in shipping, tax, port charge fees and with something as big as a Husqvarna 4421 and the fact that you have no Warranty means that even if the company you are dealing with is legitimate, the risk is far from over. You might loose a few bucks, or you could save thousands making this sort of deal a gamble. Up to you. Cheers Mike.

There are plenty of dealers here selling Unichip. Rather than talk to a salesman trying to tell me all the good bits I Googled for reviews on it from customers that have instilled one. This should be more helpful. http://www.autoanything.com/performance-chips/61A2776A0A0.aspx Cheers Mike.

The name rings a bell, but only know what I just read on their website. I’ll do some research, but as you can already tell, this is not my expertise at all. 2scoops, the New Zealand distributer details you gave me and I also found are Australian. The “.au” at the end of the website and email addresses means Australia and the phone number that starts with +61 is the Australian international calling code. I’m pretty sure somebody in Christchurch, NZ does sell these and will have a look. Cheers Mike.

I need a R2 and R4 to use as a model to get a full enclosure fitted out. If you live near Carlisle, Kentucky and would like a below cost enclosure for your efforts, please contact me. It should only take two weeks, but as we found out last time, it can take a lot longer. I also need a Trooper to go back for a couple of days to re-design just the soft front panel. If anybody lives close that owns a Commando two or four seater, I’d also love to hear from you. Your UTV will be used for promo photos, so will need to be clean. Cheers Mike.

I need a Trooper for a few days so that I can get GCL Enclosures to re-design the front Vinyl Panel for a full soft enclosure. The time needed could get extended and is out of my control, but as it is just one panel, it should be a couple of days. Your UTV will be used for promo photos, so will need to be clean. I used plumbers Trooper initially and what was supposed to be two weeks, blew out to five weeks. I am forever grateful for plumber putting up with me and understandably so, is not to keen to go back. Thanks again plumber. We also have one new Black Trooper T2 full enclosure ready to go with a Lexan Windshield. Contact Pacific Eagle USA For those that have made some changes to their Trooper roll cage but would still like a professional enclosure, this may be possible. Lenny is considering this, so contact him. His idea is to order just the completed panels unsown together and get a locale upholster to finish the job off after re-measuring. Only good if you have gone smaller needless to say. Cheers Mike.

2scoops, I see what you mean, sorry about that. Here is the 1.1 and 1.2 engine blocks and heads/ 1.1 Chery Block http://cherylist.com/CHERY-QQ-SWEET-CYLINDER-BLOCK-87543.aspx 1.1 Chery Head http://cherylist.com/CHERY-QQ-SWEET-CYLINDER-HEAD-87636.aspx 1.2 Chery Block http://cherylist.com/CHERY-A1-KIMO-S12-CYLINDER-101282.aspx 1.2 Chery Head http://cherylist.com/CHERY-A1-KIMO-S12-CYLINDER-HEAD-101202.aspx It doesn’t look likely at all. Cheers Mike.