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I got some new shocks for the trooper, Monday I will be installing them on one of my new units and testing them out. These are supposed to be the the best thing going for the trooper. Looks like retail will be about $800 for a set of 4. I have these at my shop now. Stay tuned for results of my testing.

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I got some new shocks for the trooper, Monday I will be installing them on one of my new units and testing them out. These are supposed to be the the best thing going for the trooper. Looks like retail will be about $800 for a set of 4. I have these at my shop now. Stay tuned for results of my testing.

How about some pic Please

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I got some new shocks for the trooper, Monday I will be installing them on one of my new units and testing them out. These are supposed to be the the best thing going for the trooper. Looks like retail will be about $800 for a set of 4. I have these at my shop now. Stay tuned for results of my testing.

Have anyone try these shocks yet

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Almost anything was an improvement over my stock rear shocks.

Seems like I read somewhere that these are nitrogen charged "like" the originals, and are not adjustable other than the coilover preload setting. I know the "other" brands are really spendy; but for me; I'm just gonna wait until I can afford the King shocks at $2300. Thats the single biggest upgrade i want to do to my Trooper.

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Rocmoc, I can't seem to find your post for your final valving and springs for your fox shock setup. That seems to be the best setup for the money. Let me know what you end up with.

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For simplicity; could you just tell me what to buy? :D

But actually; I'm looking at several shock manufacturers, and i just don't have the knowhow to even use their shock compression/dampening/rebound/preload calculators. How would I get the weight of each corner? (I've broken 3 bathroom scales already and my wife is pissed) :blink:

How do I come up with an idea of the right valving for compression and rebound? Well; I leave it up to you guys who are saavy with this technology; but by the time I get through 5 or 6 posts; I'm at a loss because I'm just a hobbiest off roader.

And Rocmoc and Lenny have modified suspensions. So is there a list of pertinent information for stock suspension Trooper 2s; and do shock manufacturers have the "Hot setup" for the Trooper dialed in so when you inquire; you don't really have to admit you are a dummy? :unsure:

I've contacted FOA and am having quite a cunundrum trying to get an idea of what I want/need. And I do feel like a dummy

I want "cushey"....... I want "travel". I think I read somewhere on one of the posts that their Trooper rode like a Trophy Truck. Yeah yeah! I want that! B)

But I don't want what the Trooper already has....a non adjustable nitrogen charge and a MUCH too stiff spring. I don't understand why Joyner would put a non working shock system on their vehicles. Mine rides like a hardtail Harley (even with lowering the preload adjustment). The rear Bighorn tires helped SOME; but not much

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For simplicity; could you just tell me what to buy? :D

But actually; I'm looking at several shock manufacturers, and i just don't have the knowhow to even use their shock compression/dampening/rebound/preload calculators. How would I get the weight of each corner? (I've broken 3 bathroom scales already and my wife is pissed) :blink:

How do I come up with an idea of the right valving for compression and rebound? Well; I leave it up to you guys who are saavy with this technology; but by the time I get through 5 or 6 posts; I'm at a loss because I'm just a hobbiest off roader.

And Rocmoc and Lenny have modified suspensions. So is there a list of pertinent information for stock suspension Trooper 2s; and do shock manufacturers have the "Hot setup" for the Trooper dialed in so when you inquire; you don't really have to admit you are a dummy? :unsure:

I've contacted FOA and am having quite a cunundrum trying to get an idea of what I want/need. And I do feel like a dummy

I want "cushey"....... I want "travel". I think I read somewhere on one of the posts that their Trooper rode like a Trophy Truck. Yeah yeah! I want that! B)

But I don't want what the Trooper already has....a non adjustable nitrogen charge and a MUCH too stiff spring. I don't understand why Joyner would put a non working shock system on their vehicles. Mine rides like a hardtail Harley (even with lowering the preload adjustment). The rear Bighorn tires helped SOME; but not much

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X3,sounds like a good time to start a club.I could be president because of all the experience i have at being a dummy. :D

You guys should have been at meeting!! "Quig" won dummy of forum hands down, it was unanimous,,no one is even close!!! True!!!! : )

PS, he was voted nicest dummy? Well? maybe not? lol

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For simplicity; could you just tell me what to buy? :D

But actually; I'm looking at several shock manufacturers, and i just don't have the knowhow to even use their shock compression/dampening/rebound/preload calculators. How would I get the weight of each corner? (I've broken 3 bathroom scales already and my wife is pissed) :blink:

How do I come up with an idea of the right valving for compression and rebound? Well; I leave it up to you guys who are saavy with this technology; but by the time I get through 5 or 6 posts; I'm at a loss because I'm just a hobbiest off roader.

And Rocmoc and Lenny have modified suspensions. So is there a list of pertinent information for stock suspension Trooper 2s; and do shock manufacturers have the "Hot setup" for the Trooper dialed in so when you inquire; you don't really have to admit you are a dummy? :unsure:

I've contacted FOA and am having quite a cunundrum trying to get an idea of what I want/need. And I do feel like a dummy

I want "cushey"....... I want "travel". I think I read somewhere on one of the posts that their Trooper rode like a Trophy Truck. Yeah yeah! I want that! B)

But I don't want what the Trooper already has....a non adjustable nitrogen charge and a MUCH too stiff spring. I don't understand why Joyner would put a non working shock system on their vehicles. Mine rides like a hardtail Harley (even with lowering the preload adjustment). The rear Bighorn tires helped SOME; but not much

The only off-the-shelf option right now is the Kings at $2600--unless you want to buy the new T2 shocks, which I wouldn't waste my money on. They don't look any different from we already have, just new and shiny. So, you can go high-end or low-end if you don't want to make any modifications to your stock suspension. If you are willing to modify then, as you have discovered, there are lots of different routes. If you want a trophy truck ride then you will have to make some modifications. The rear of the trooper is actually relatively easy to modify. The front is not. However, I think you'd be happy with just an upgraded shock from stock tuned to your liking.

If you don't want to get too extreme into fabrication, I would start off by removing the stock shocks and seeing if there is any extra suspension travel that is there to be had before your CV's or suspension components bind. Take your measurement in the middle of the shock mount eyes in both full droop and full compressed. Then, try and find a quality shock that will fit. However, I cannot confirm or deny if there is much more travel to be had over the stock configuration...someone else on this forum has probably already taken this measurement. However, each of our vehicles is slightly different, so I would take your own measurements. And, your acceptable limits might be very different than someone else's. If there is a shock that is close, you can always use limiting straps to ensure you don't over-extend your suspension and bump stops can be used to limit compression.

I have lowered my front diff to achieve 12.25" of travel. In full extension I am limited to 12.25" and after that my CV joints binding. I have factored in about 1/4"-3/8" of wiggle room. In full compression I am limited to my steering tie rods binding. If you can get an honest 10" without lowering your diff, you should be more than happy.

Now, for the fun part--springs. I called King and they said they run 200lb on the front & 300lb on the rear. Personally that seems too low. But, if you crank the preload down, they may work. Call Steve at Makintrax suspension. He is willing to let you use used springs until you find the rate you are happy with if you purchase the springs from him. You know what, for that matter once you take your compressed & extended measurements, just call him. He can also outfit you with affordable, quality shocks. I think he may even offer an external adjustable rebound/compression shock now. Then, once you have come up with something you are happy with POST IT! You will save others from pulling their hair out as you will soon be doing ;)

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