Travis Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share #91 Posted November 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, T-boss 410 said: Oh, suck it up, Nancy!!! It's just water 😇 I don't mind water, i just don't like ELECTRICITY from the clouds! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted November 28, 2020 Share #92 Posted November 28, 2020 It only hurts for the minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share #93 Posted November 28, 2020 just call me Zap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan B Posted November 28, 2020 Share #94 Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 5:47 PM, T-boss 410 said: I would be very interested in finding out what the cost of the gear was for the dealership, and then compare that to the retail cost. I bet we would be amazed! In my experience with repairs to my vehicles, dealerships and repair shops charge 2x-3x the retial price for parts that I can buy at NAPA's retail price. My AC compressor $995 from the dealership, $485 fromn NAPA. I don't buy lifetime warranty parts. They are exactly the same as the 90-day warranty parts, just painted a different color. You're paying about 50% higher price that their lifetime part and they're betting you won't need to replace it. I've never would have been able to collect on a warranty replacement on anything I've ever purchased. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted November 28, 2020 Share #95 Posted November 28, 2020 I suspect that the parts (or at least some of them) at a dealership are the same as those at a parts store. I have seen chain parts stores delivering parts to dealerships. What a ripoff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Breaux Posted November 28, 2020 Share #96 Posted November 28, 2020 and people say I'm too hard on Chinese manufacturing? I also suggest you take your original to your local Automotive Electrical repair shop. Let them rebuild THAT one .. My local shop rebuilt a starter for $59 that Ford wanted $425 for new . Its been working for 6 years now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan B Posted November 28, 2020 Share #97 Posted November 28, 2020 If you have the Kawasaki Mule with an 800cc gas engine, then even though Kawasaki is a Japanese brand, that engine is a Chery engine from China. Trouble is, most of my parts I have to eventually get from China. Few parts are available in the US. I've found some parts I needed for my ride on Amazon.com.. If you go there, be sure to check the sellers ratings. One seller for Kawasaki parts had a 69% favorable vs 31% unfavorale (I look for 95% or better favorable). You might find the starter you need for about $60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share #98 Posted November 29, 2020 well the rain has finally stopped. maybe i can get it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted November 29, 2020 Share #99 Posted November 29, 2020 Good luck, and let us know how it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share #100 Posted November 29, 2020 CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK. I'm going to buy a new Arrowhead starter for $80 from a small engine repair shop,... I'm not taking that starter off one more time only to not have what i do work. im sick of it, i've had that starter off 8 times in 2 weeks. i have busted knuckles to prove it. On the plus side i am now an expert on starter removal and can have it off 2 minutes, LOL! there's got to be something not aligned right with that starter, because just a few taps with the the hammer and it starts right up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted November 29, 2020 Share #101 Posted November 29, 2020 I'm sorry to hear that. Could it be somehow binding up when you tighten it down? Maybe the body of the starter is somehow bending a small amount when you torque it down, and tapping it with a hammer loosens it enough to crank over? You said it spins fine when you tested it off the machine, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Breaux Posted November 29, 2020 Share #102 Posted November 29, 2020 that starter was proudly built by the same guy who made my exceptional quality Hisun head gasket and head .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted November 29, 2020 Share #103 Posted November 29, 2020 Joe's a real critic when it comes to Chinese ingenuity 😜 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share #104 Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, T-boss 410 said: I'm sorry to hear that. Could it be somehow binding up when you tighten it down? Maybe the body of the starter is somehow bending a small amount when you torque it down, and tapping it with a hammer loosens it enough to crank over? You said it spins fine when you tested it off the machine, correct? yep, spun fine not bolted up. I think this arrowhead starter ought to do pretty good from Jacks. I was told by a friend who is a Briggs dealer that they manufacture alot of the starters and switches etc. for Briggs and Kohler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share #105 Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Joe Breaux said: that starter was proudly built by the same guy who made my exceptional quality Hisun head gasket and head .. I'll bet $10,000,000 that i don't have you're right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackc Posted November 30, 2020 Share #106 Posted November 30, 2020 17 hours ago, T-boss 410 said: I'm sorry to hear that. Could it be somehow binding up when you tighten it down? Maybe the body of the starter is somehow bending a small amount when you torque it down, and tapping it with a hammer loosens it enough to crank over? You said it spins fine when you tested it off the machine, correct? 13 hours ago, Travis said: yep, spun fine not bolted up. I think this arrowhead starter ought to do pretty good from Jacks. I was told by a friend who is a Briggs dealer that they manufacture alot of the starters and switches etc. for Briggs and Kohler. Have you checked the battery with a battery load tester, My Craftsman riding mower starter went CLICK,Click,Qruick, Qurick and after pulling al the covers etc,etc, then checking how much a starter costs, load tested the battery and it had a bad cell, new battery fixed everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share #107 Posted November 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mackc said: Have you checked the battery with a battery load tester, My Craftsman riding mower starter went CLICK,Click,Qruick, Qurick and after pulling al the covers etc,etc, then checking how much a starter costs, load tested the battery and it had a bad cell, new battery fixed everything Not with a load tester, but i have checked the voltage drop when it does click, it only drops to 11.9 volts. Which is what i get on a good battery in my rider mower when i tested it, And when it does start, it spins over easily. The battery is new from the dealer as of March this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted December 10, 2020 Share #108 Posted December 10, 2020 Has there been any progress on the starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Breaux Posted December 10, 2020 Share #109 Posted December 10, 2020 I need a new anchor for my boat... lol how much does it weigh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share #110 Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, T-boss 410 said: Has there been any progress on the starter? the place i ordered it from had to order it from Arrowhead (the manufacturer) supposed to ship on the 12th or 13th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share #111 Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe Breaux said: I need a new anchor for my boat... lol how much does it weigh? you can have it, i'll even provide the rope!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted December 11, 2020 Share #112 Posted December 11, 2020 I thought you already had the starter gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share #113 Posted December 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, T-boss 410 said: I thought you already had the starter gear? i did, i put it on, it didn't work. starter still sounds terrible and clicks, so i ordered a new Name brand starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Breaux Posted December 11, 2020 Share #114 Posted December 11, 2020 send both with rope.. my boat is large ..lolol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted December 11, 2020 Share #115 Posted December 11, 2020 Sorry, didn't know that. I guess if you want a name brand, you'll be paying for it. I hope it's not too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackc Posted December 11, 2020 Share #116 Posted December 11, 2020 Does it ever turn the engine over at all ? If not pull the sparkplug out to relieve the compression and try the starter, I bet it may be the battery, cable or solinoid . Hey, I am over 80 years old been working on cars and trucks ever since I was a pup. I rebuilt the engine on my 1930 Ford model A when I was 12, and I still got stymied with a 12 volt battery with some bad cells. and a leaking carb float valve that filled my single cylinder engine's cylinder with gasoline (guess what....gasoline don't compress) while it was parked for a month. I have been learning new stuff forever. I am not a big fan of Japanese and Chinese 4 cycle Internal Combustion engine designs. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share #117 Posted December 11, 2020 @Mackc yes sir, the engine turns over great once the starter engages it. and spins over fairly easy by hand like any other small engine in this HP range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share #118 Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, T-boss 410 said: Sorry, didn't know that. I guess if you want a name brand, you'll be paying for it. I hope it's not too expensive. It's made by Arrowhead, $80.00, they're not top of the line (Like Denso) but it's better than Wee Fewl Yu from china. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-boss 410 Posted December 11, 2020 Share #119 Posted December 11, 2020 Is this a rebuilt unit, or new? Seems I remember them making starters for mowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share #120 Posted December 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, T-boss 410 said: Is this a rebuilt unit, or new? Seems I remember them making starters for mowers. Brand new, yes, according to a friend who is a Briggs tech, they make some starters and other electrical components for Briggs and Kohler, and also for the aftermarket seller Stens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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